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Sunday July 5, 2009 14:37

BS education and intellectual ability needs to be addressed to try to stop the nonsense of ignoring data.

Notes from today meeting: Evidence, truth, NCUA credibility, compound problems for us and NCUA, and Eclipse.

Eclipse bankruptcy further highlights corruption and competence problems in New Mexico.

Sunday July 5, 2009 14:36

how do apollo Gate Operators work

How much voltage should a solar panel produce?

The standard 5 Watt solar panel with our unit should produce between 13 and 20 volts, at a current output of 225 to 375mA. These ranges are affected by the amount of sunlight and the orientation of the panel. Remember that even if a solar panel is producing voltage, it must also be producing adequate current in order to charge the battery.

standard 5 Watt solar panel

Reviews of 12 Volt Solar Battery Chargers.

Essential non-BTU-wasting travel focused on solar-charged devices seen in New Mexico and looking at house FOR SALE signs.

In the morning we travelled down Rio Grande Bvld as were surprised the the great number of FOR SALE signs. We toured the Growers Market.

At about 10:30 we travelled from Albuquerque, NM through Galesteo, NM to Lamy, NM then to El Dorado, NM.

Then returned back to Galesteo, NM to Cerillos, NM through Madrid, NM back to Albuquerque, NM. About 200 miles of essential non-BTU-wasting travel.




http://www.prosefights.org/pnmsolar/pnmsolar.htm#gates



Gate in Lamy, NM photographed July 4, 2009.



Old solar panels are disconnected and broken.



Solar speed indicators are placed on the south and north side of Galesteo. Below is the north indicator.



Inside Cerillos, NM Mining Museaum.



$20 purchased






Madrid, New Mexico.



The Mine Shaft Saloon is straight ahead.

Bill Bonner describes:
But when we got to the little town of Madrid, New Mexico, only one word seemed to work: funky. Without it, the town couldn’t exist.

Madrid is an old mining town that had become a ghost town by the mid-1900s. It was rediscovered by hippies in the 1960s. The hippies were attracted by the remoteness and desolation of the place. They could do what they wanted here; nobody seemed to care. They lived in old school buses, teepees and abandoned mining shacks. They planted marijuana in the hills, sold tie-dyed Grateful Dead T- shirts to the tourists, collected junk…and enjoyed watching tumbleweeds blow through town.

Nothing is quite straight in Madrid. The houses lean. The floors sink. The people drift.

The houses and retail shops deserve description. They are encyclopedic in their illustration of dereliction, degradation, abject desolation, disrepair, trashy disintegration and makeshift decrepitude. One of them fascinated us. It was a "company house," no doubt, built for the miners who once inhabited the place. But it had not been touched by a paintbrush since the Coolidge administration. Windows were broken out; in their place were pieces of cardboard or plywood. And the porch roof had been entirely ruined, so that rain fell directly onto the floor, which was fast settling into a kind of rot. Some of the houses in Madrid seemed to be suffering from dry rot. Others from wet rot. And still others from kinds of rot that have not yet been cataloged.

The Madrilenos seemed to be a bit rotten too. The old hippies still hate corporate capitalism, but now their hair has grown gray…their beards are white… and their principles, whatever they once were, have given way to the general desuetude of the surroundings. They sell whatever the tourists will buy…though their main product is the counterculture itself. A T-shirt, for example, proclaims: "Homeland Security…fighting terror since 1492." The picture on it is of Geronimo with a group of armed Apaches.

The Mine Shaft Saloon is a local hangout. It is a friendly place with a broad bar and dollar bills pasted up on the wall…each one with someone’s name on it. Country music plays loudly…

Several cowboys sat on bar stools drinking their beer, when we came in. The barmaid seemed as busy as a firefighter - trying to keep up with the demand for beer. Cowboys and tourists sat at the tables. One man in a Stetson hat leaned on a walker as he made his way to the bathroom.

One of the men at the bar was a typical and unmemorable fellow in jeans and T-shirt. Another was a strange, big- bellied character with black muttonchop whiskers and eyes that hadn’t seen straight in years. But what caught our attention was the woman who moved between them. Flirting with the first man…and then, when he ignored her…she moved onto the second. If it was a paramour she was seeking, she seemed to be in the wrong place. Then again, she seemed to be the wrong woman, too. She had tattoos up and down her arm…and wore a dress that took all the form out of her. This left the viewer’s eye with nothing to focus upon but the hideous tattoos…and the face.

The poor woman was no beauty. She was no young filly either. Not that she was old; she simply looked as though she had been ridden too hard. She had long dark hair…which framed a bad complexion and a missing tooth.

After a few minutes, she was joined by another woman of about the same age. This one had just come in from outside, where a thunderstorm had caught her. She was wearing a pair of overalls with the legs cut off…and a pair of hiking boots. Her hair was plastered down from the rain…her clothes were soaked…and water glistened from her bare legs. The slippery, wet legs were pretty and well shaped. In fact, the woman might have been attractive, but she too looked as though she needed a vacation, and a tooth.


Key pad for gate just north of Golden, NM.



Nameplate on box reads Apollo.




Saturday July 4, 2009 06:49

Opportunity to learn a lot of liberal arts BS was available at Whitman.

Many, if not most, of the students availed themselves this opportunity.

We believe we heard George Bridges at lunch on June 26, 2009 reporting on how he abused a female Whitman College student with his opinions.

Nonetheless, we have a job for Bridges and

https://www.whitman.edu/content/commencement/speakers/crocker/video


Lessons from a Long War" 2009 Commencement address by former Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker, a 1971 Whitman graduate.

Crocker received the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian honor a U.S. president can bestow, in January from then-President George W. Bush, who referred to him as "one of the finest Foreign Services officers in American history."

The majority of Crocker’s 38-year career was spent in the Middle East. "His understanding of the region is unmatched," said President Bush.

to try to help get these unfortunate matters peacefully settled before they get worse.

Shattuck school clasmate Bill Howden andformer mayor of Rio Rancho, NM and bill will have lunch at the Flying Star on Rio Grande Bvld on July 7, 2009 to discuss some of these matters..


http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/whitman59/whitman59after.htm#george


Sunday May 24, 2009.



Received Saturday July 3, 2009.



Saturday May 23, 2009.



Cargill Hall is important to this project because he personally knows Thomas C Reed.
Saturday July 4, 2009 10:11

Prosefights posted the below June 26 email at Truthdig.

Patty Payne reported by phone July 4, 2009 f rom Bradenton, FL that her three sisters are going to demonstrate at a Tea Party in Florida.



Tea Party Plans To Show Off Size Today

from PAGE C1

organizers hope can draw more than 10,000 people.

The Albuquerque event is being held just east of the Balloon Fiesta Park entrance at 4509 Alameda Blvd. NE on Telstar Construction Company property. It's scheduled to run froir 4 to 6 p.m.

Linda Merrell, another organizer, said that, once people understand what the Tea Party is really about, they are usually more likely to join than to criticize.

It's all about spending whai the country can afford and keeping government from intruding on our daily lives, Merrell said.

Government needs to shrink before deficits or taxation become too much for the country to handle, she said. "What (elected officials) need to understand is that the American people know there is only so much we can afford."

And while each Tea Party is different, the AlbuquerquE version is fiercely nonpartisan, Carson said. Both politi. cal parties have approached the group trying to coopt its members - and message, she said.

"They've tried to do that, but that's just not going to work," Carson said. "These people here in this movement, they're not sheep to be herded by a political party."

Merrell said the evidence of the group's appeal can be seen through its quick rise into the public eye. She said it was organized by about 50 friends and acquaintances who sent out e-mails and set up a Web site. Just a few short weeks later, on April 15, roughly 7,000 people showed up to demonstrate on Albuquerque's Montgomery Blvd., she said. (Journal reporters covering the event were able to estimate a crowd about half that size).

Most of the people who have pledged their support aren't crackpots, Carson said. They're normal people with concerns that have been ignored by both parties for a long time. And most have never been part of a political movement before, Merrell said.

"I've never protested or carried a sign or done anything like this," Merrell said.

Albuquerque Journal Saturday July 4, 2009



http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/whitman59/whitman59after.htm#paine


Tuesday June 30, 2009 10:14

The word ignore is used lots in the below video.




We have to get NCUA to pay attention and respond inquiries in writing.


Liberal arts educated must be kept off their verbal turf.


http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/whitman59/whitman59after.htm#paine


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----- Folks - truer words never spoken - now what?

Dear Friends, won't you please listen to this carefully?

This guy's video on youtube has been so popular that Obama called him personally. He said that he was very disturbed with the video and invited him to the White House. Obama also said he wanted the White House to handle the Press and not to talk about the video or the White House visit. That's interesting.

Watch it now. This may be the best six minutes invested in your future

You may have to turn your Sound Control up some.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA


NCUA and trying to get our $22,036.00 is now top priority.


Morgan Stanley advisor phoned. He believes that the Eclipse Aviation bonds may have been insured.

Other creditors owed big money include well-known financial institutions like Morgan Stanley & Co., the Wall Street giant that had a meltdown in September, and UBS Securities, the Swiss bank that settled fraud claims with federal regulators last summer.

But he added that it may be a long time before we find out.

MSM has power. And is dangerous.

If we relied on msm instead of Internet our legal project would have failed.

FACTS in NCUA fraud loss claim.

Monday June 1, 2009 07:26
National Credit Union Administration Regulations § 793.1-8

Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions (Guide)

Insurance Failure to Pay Law & Legal Definition.

Monday May 18, 2009 13:47

Certified return receipt requested and email.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/ncualove.htm#director

Ms Melinda Love
Regional Director, Region 5
National Credit Union Administration
1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Office (602) 302-6000
Fax (602) 302- 6024
E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

Dear Ms Love:

We complain that Ms Kelly Lay has improperly processed our NCUA fraud loss claims for $22,0036.00 resulting in no proper determination of our initial claims.

Ms Lay has not followed the NCUA REGs by not giving us the written report of the evidence (verble,written,recorded or any other means) as required by NCUA to establish, support and justification her decision and conclusion. The follwing evidence of bogus court documents should be enough to pay us for our claims. However there is much more damaging evidence on record that will lead you to this point.

We respond to Ms Lay's responses in a separate document seen at XXXXXXXX.

Prima Facie evidence of our fraud loss is contained in two documents.

Here is an authentic court filing in CIV 97-266 MCA/LFG. It bears the FILED stamp of the court clerk.




Our claims to Ms Lay of fraudulent removal of $22,036.00 from our retirement-protected Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union [SLFCU] saving account with below bogus court order which are presented in our fraud loss claims affidavits.








Ms Jean Dixon who apparently works Ms Lay said that the above prima facie evidence is unsufficient to prove fraud loss. Again with no report to justify this statement.

Ms Dixon of NCUA Region 5 said that our appeal will not be properly handled by you.

Ms Dixon said that you would merely return it to Ms Lay. We feel that this would be improper.

You can listen to Ms Dixon telling us this http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/unsigned/melindalove.mp3.

If NCUA does not send us fraud loss claim checks for #11,018.00 each, then we ask that you regard this letter as appeal under NCUA Regulations § 745.201 a refusal of your subordinate, Ms Kelly Lay, to pay a fraud loss insurance claim.

We would appreciate you looking into this matter and and doing what is right by resolving these issues. We wait with anticipation for your reply, thank you.

Sincerely,



Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.net




William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net

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angel.espinoza@state.nm.us
region5@ncua.gov
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
kmccabe@cabq.gov
mcastro@cabq.gov
mcallaway@cabq.gov
dbowdtch@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil
board_of_directors@slfcu.org
MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us






Dr Stuart Guttman left message that he won apppeal.

General Electric's Impressive Entry into the Grid Based Energy Storage Business comment.

Greenspan Sees Another Bottom for Housing comment.

Conceal carry handgun classes in New Mexico 2009.

Morgan Stanley Goldman Sachs dinner May 12, 2009 Sabrosos, Albuquerque, NM.

PNM spokesperson Don Brown emailed on Tuesday afternoon May 12, 2009. But we won't read it since we have to do work on our legal project.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/theinvestigation/theinvestigation.htm#reedemail


We hope to use our knowledge of how liberal arts graduates think to help get our $22,036.00 back. And hopefully send Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union CEO Christopher Jillson to prison for nine years.

Please email me the graduate vocational stats you presented on the class of 1959 on Saturday May 23, 2009.

Social Security complaints http://www.prosefights.org/coal/desertrockcomment/desertrockcomment.htm#socialsecurity

SLFCU questionnaire http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/slfcu/slfcu.htm#2009survey

The Nuclear Express by Thomas C Reed and Danny Stillman.

New Mexico chief Judge Martha Vazquez threats.

Indictment of the liberal arts educated.

Whitman class 1959 graduate Jim Dutton comments on computer and Whitman mail.






may 2008 745-16

§ 745.201 Processing of Insurance Claims.

(a) Delegations of authority. The Agent for the Liquidating Agent (‘‘Liquidating Agent’’) or his or her designee is authorized to make initial determinations with respect to insurance claims pursuant to the principles set forth in this Part, and to act on requests for reconsideration of the initial determination.

(b) Initial determination. In the event the Liquidating Agent determines that all or a portion of an accountholder’s account is uninsured, the Liquidating Agent shall so notify the accountholder in writing, stating the reason(s) for such initial determination, and shall provide the accountholder with a certificate of claim in liquidation in the amount of the uninsured account from the Board in its capacity as Liquidating Agent for the insured credit union to enable the accountholder to share in the proceeds of the liquidation of the credit union, if any, up to the amount of the uninsured account.

(c) Request for Reconsideration. An accountholder may, at his or her option, request reconsideration from the Liquidating Agent of the initial determination within 30 days of the date of the initial determination, or directly appeal the initial determination to the Board pursuant to § 745.202 of this subpart. The Liquidating Agent shall act on the request for reconsideration within 30 days from its receipt.

§ 745.202 Appeal.

(a) Time for filing. Within 60 days after issuance of an initial determination, or of the determination on a request for reconsideration by the liquidating agent, the accountholder may appeal by filing with the Board a written request for appeal. The appeal may be filed with the Secretary of the Board, National Credit Union Administration, 1775 Duke Street, Alexandria, VA 22314–3428.

(b) Content of request. Any appeal must include:

(1) a statement of the facts on which the claim for insurance is based;

(2) a statement of the basis for the initial determination or determination on the request for reconsideration to which the accountholder objects and the alleged error in such determination, including citations to applicable statutes and regulations;

(3) any other evidence relied upon by the accountholder which was not previously provided to the Liquidating Agent.

(c) Procedures for review of request.

(1) Within 60 days of the date of the Board’s receipt of an appeal, the Board may request in writing that the accountholder submit additional facts and records in support of its request. The account-holder shall have 45 days from the date of issuance of such written request to provide such additional information. Failure by the accountholder to provide additional information may, as determined solely by the Board, result in denial of the account-holder’s appeal.

(2) Within 60 days from the date of the Board’s receipt of an appeal, the accountholder may amend or supplement the request in writing. In the event that the accountholder does amend or supplement the request, the provisions of paragraph (c)(1) of this section with respect to requests for additional information and responses to such requests shall apply with equal force to any such amendment or supplement to a request.

(d) Determination on appeal.

(1) Within 180 days from the date of the receipt of an appeal by the Board, the Board shall issue a decision determining the extent of the accountholder’s insurance pursuant to the rules of this Part.

(2) The determination by the Board on appeal shall be provided to the accountholder in writing, stating the reason(s) for the determination, and shall constitute a final Agency order regarding the accountholder’s claim for insurance.

(3) If the Board determines that the account-holder is entitled to the amount of insurance claimed or portion thereof, upon payment of such insurance the accountholder shall promptly surrender to the Board the certificate of claim in liquidation provided in connection with the initial determination. In the event that the Board determines that the accountholder is only entitled to a portion of the amount of insurance claimed, upon the accountholder’s surrender of such certificate a new certificate of claim in liquidation will be provided which reflects the revised amount of the uninsured account.

PART 745 SHARE INSURANCE AND APPENDIX § 745.203

(4) Failure by the Board to issue a determination on appeal of the accountholder’s claim for insurance within the 180-day period provided for under this paragraph

(d)(1) shall be deemed to be a denial of such claim for purposes of Section 745.203 of this subpart.

§ 745.203 Judicial Review.

(a) For purposes of seeking judicial review of actions taken pursuant to this subpart, only a determination on appeal issued by the Board pursuant to Section 745.202 of this subpart shall constitute a final determination regarding an accountholder’s claim for insurance.

(b) Failure to file an appeal with regard to an initial determination, or a decision rendered on a request for reconsideration within the applicable time periods shall constitute a failure by the accountholder to exhaust available administrative remedies and, due to such failure, any objections to the initial determination or request for reconsideration shall be deemed to be waived and such determination shall be deemed to have been accepted by, and binding upon, the accountholder.

(c) Final determination by the Board is reviewable in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 7, Title 5, United States Code, by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia or the court of appeals for the Federal judicial circuit where the credit union’s principal place of business is located. Such action must be filed not later than 60 days after such final determination is ordered.


793-1 may 2008 Part 793

Tort Claims Against the Government

§ 793.1 Scope of regulations.

The regulations in this Part shall apply only to claims asserted under the Federal Tort Claims Act, as amended, 28 U.S.C. Sections 2671–2680, accruing on or after January 18, 1967, for money damages against the United States for damage to or loss of property or personal injury or death caused by the negligent or wrongful act or omission of any employee of the National Credit Union Administration while acting within the scope of his office of employment.

Subpart B—Procedures

§ 793.2 Administrative claim; when presented; place of filing.

(a) For purposes of the regulations in this Part, a claim shall be deemed to have been presented when the National Credit Union Administration receives, at a place designated in paragraph (c) of this Section, an executed Standard Form 95 or other written notification of an incident accompanied by a claim for money damages in a sum certain for damage to or loss of property, for personal injury, or for death, alleged to have occurred by reason of the incident. A claim which should have been presented to the National Credit Union Administration but which was mistakenly addressed to or filed with another Federal agency, shall be deemed to be presented to the National Credit Union Administration as of the date that the claim is received by the National Credit Union Administration. A claim mistakenly addressed to or filed with the National Credit Union Administration shall forthwith be transferred to the appropriate Federal agency, if ascertainable, or returned to the claimant.

(b) A claim presented in compliance with paragraph

(a) of this Section may be amended by the claimant at any time prior to final action by the Office of General Counsel, National Credit Union Administration or prior to the exercise of the claimant’s option to bring suit under 28 U.S.C. 2675(a). Amendments shall be submitted in writing and signed by the claimant or his duly authorized agent or legal representative. Upon the timely filing of an amendment to a pending claim, the National Credit Union Administration shall have 6 months in which to make a final disposition of the claim as amended and the claimant’s option under 28 U.S.C. 2675(a) shall not accrue until 6 months after the filing of an amendment.

(c) Forms may be obtained and claims may be filed with the regional office of the National Credit Union Administration having jurisdiction over the employee involved in the accident or incident, or with the Office of General Counsel, National Credit Union Administration, 1775 Duke Street, Alexandria, VA 22314–3428.

§ 793.3 Administrative claim; who may file.

(a) A claim for injury to or loss of property may be presented by the owner of the property interest which is the subject matter of the claim, his duly authorized agent, or his legal representative.

(b) A claim for personal injury may be presented by the injured person, his duly authorized agent, or his legal representative.

(c) A claim based on death may be presented by the executor or administrator of the decedent’s estate or by any other person legally entitled to assert such a claim under applicable state law.

(d) A claim for loss wholly compensated by an insurer with the rights of a subrogee may be presented by the insurer. A claim for loss partially compensated by an insurer with the rights of a subrogee may be presented by the insurer or the insured individually, as their respective interests appear, or jointly. Whenever an insurer presents a claim asserting the rights of a subrogee, he shall present with his claim appropriate evidence that he has the rights of a subrogee.

(e) A claim presented by an agent or legal representative shall be presented in the name of the claimant, be signed by the agent or legal representative, show the title or legal capacity of the person signing, and be accompanied by evidence of his authority to present a claim on behalf of the claimant as agent, executor, administrator, parent, guardian, or other representative.

§ 793.4 Administrative claim; evidence and information to be submitted.

PART 793 NCUA RULES AND REGULATIONS § 793.5 may 2008 793-2

(a) Death. In support of a claim based on death, the claimant may be required to submit the following evidence or information:

(1) An authenticated death certificate or other competent evidence showing the cause of death, date of death, and age of the decedent.

(2) Decedent’s employment or occupation at the time of death, including his monthly or yearly salary or earnings (if any), and the duration of his last employment or occupation.

(3) Full names, addresses, birthdates, kinship, and marital status of the decedent’s survivors, including those survivors who were dependent for support upon the decedent at the time of his death.

(4) Degree of support afforded by the decedent to each survivor dependent upon him for support at the time of his death.

(5) Decedent’s general physical and mental condition before death.

(6) Itemized bills for medical and burial expenses incurred by reason of the incident causing death, or itemized receipts of payments for such expenses.

(7) If damages for pain and suffering before death are claimed, a physician’s detailed statement specifying the injuries suffered, duration of pain and suffering, any drugs administered for pain and the decedent’s physical condition in the interval between injury and death.

(8) Any other evidence or information which may have a bearing on the responsibility of the United States for the death or the damages claimed.

(b) Personal injury. In support of a claim based on personal injury, the claimant may be required to submit the following evidence or information:

(1) A written report by his attending physician or dentist setting forth the nature and extent of the injury, nature and extent of the treatment, any degree of temporary or permanent disability, the prognosis, period of hospitalization, and any diminished earning capacity. In addition, the claimant may be required to submit to a physical and/or mental examination by a physician employed or designated by the National Credit Union Administration. A copy or report of the examining physician shall be made available to the claimant upon the claimant’s written request provided that claimant has, upon request, furnished the report referred to in the first sentence of this subparagraph and has made or agrees to make available to the National Credit Union Administration any other physician’s reports previously or thereafter made of the physical or mental condition which is the subject of his claim.

(2) Itemized bills for medical, dental, and hospital expenses incurred, or itemized receipts of payment for such expenses.

(3) If the prognosis reveals the necessity for future treatment, a statement of expected duration of and expenses for such treatment.

(4) If a claim is made for loss of time from employment, a written statement from his employer showing actual time lost from his employment, whether he is a full or part time employee, and wages or salary actually lost.

(5) If a claim is made for loss of income and the claimant is self-employed, documentary evidence showing the amount of earnings actually lost.

(6) Any other evidence or information which may have a bearing on the responsibility of the United States for the personal injury or the damages claimed.

(c) Property damage. In support of a claim for damages to or loss of property, real or personal, the claimant may be required to submit the following information or evidence:

(1) Proof of ownership.

(2) A detailed statement of the amount claimed with respect to each item of property.

(3) An itemized receipt of payment for necessary repairs or itemized written estimates of the cost of such repairs.

(4) A statement listing date of purchase, purchase price, market value of the property as of date of damage, and salvage value, where repair is not economical.

(5) Any other evidence or information which may have a bearing on the responsibility of the United States for the injury to or loss of property or the damages claimed.

(d) Time limit. All evidence required to be submitted by this Section shall be furnished by the claimant within a reasonable time. Failure of a claimant to furnish evidence necessary for a determination of his claim within 3 months after a request therefor has been mailed to his last known address may be deemed an abandonment of the claim. The claim may be thereupon disallowed.

§ 793.5 Investigation, examination, and determination of claims. When a claim is received, the constituent agency out of whose activities the claim arose shall make such investigation as may be necessary or appropriate for a determination of the validity of the claim and thereafter shall forward the claim, together with all pertinent material, and a recommendation based on the merits of the case, with regard to the allowance or disallowance of the claim, to the Office of General Counsel, National Credit Union Administration to whom authority has been delegated to adjust, determine, compromise and settle all claims hereunder.

§ 793.6 Final denial of claim.

(a) Final denial of an administrative claim shall be in writing and sent to the claimant, his attorney, or legal PART 793 TORT CLAIMS AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT § 793.7 representative by certified or registered mail. The notification of final denial may include a statement of the reasons for the denial and shall include a statement that, if the claimant is dissatisfied with the action of the National Credit Union Administration, he may file suit in an appropriate U.S. District Court not later than 6 months after the date of mailing the notification.

(b) Prior to the commencement of suit and prior to the expiration of the 6-month period after the date of mailing, by certified or registered mail of notice of final denial of the claim as provided in 28 U.S.C. 2401(b), a claimant, his duly authorized agent, or legal representative, may file a written request with the National Credit Union Administration for reconsideration of a final denial of a claim under paragraph (a) of this Section. Upon the timely filing of a request for reconsideration the National Credit Union Administration shall have 6 months from the date of filing in which to make a final disposition of the claim and the claimant’s option under 28 U.S.C. 2675(a) to bring suit shall not accrue until 6 months after the filing of a request for reconsideration. Final National Credit Union Administration action on a request for reconsideration shall be effected in accordance with the provisions of paragraph (a) of this Section.

§ 793.7 Payment of approved claims.

(a) Upon allowance of his claim, claimant or his duly authorized agent shall sign the voucher for payment, Standard Form 1145, before payment is made.

(b) When the claimant is represented by an attorney, the voucher for payment (S.F. 1145) shall designate both the claimant and his attorney as ‘‘payees.’’ The check shall be delivered to the attorney whose address shall appear on the voucher.

§ 793.8 Release.

Acceptance by the claimant, his agent or legal representative, of any award, compromise or settlement made hereunder, shall be final and conclusive on the claimant, his agent or legal representative and any other person on whose behalf or for whose benefit the claim has been presented, and shall constitute a complete release of any claim against the United States and any employee of the Government whose act or omission gave rise to the claim, by reason of the same subject matter.

§ 793.9 Penalties. A person who files a false claim or makes a false or fraudulent statement in a claim against the United States may be liable to a fine of not more than $10,000 or to imprisonment of not more than 5 years, or both (18 U.S.C. 287–1001), and, in addition, to a forfeiture of $2,000 and a penalty of double the loss or damage sustained by the United States (31 U.S.C. 231).

§ 793.10 Limitation on National Credit Union Administration’s authority.

(a) An award, compromise or settlement of a claim hereunder in excess of $25,000 shall be effected only with the prior written approval of the Attorney General or his designee. For purposes of this paragraph, a principal claim and any derivative or subrogated claim shall be treated as a single claim.

(b) An administrative claim may be adjusted, determined, compromised or settled hereunder only after consultation with the Department of Justice when, in the opinion of the National Credit Union Administration:

(1) A new precedent or a new point of law is involved; or

(2) A question of policy is or may be involved; or

(3) The United States is or may be entitled to indemnity or contribution from a third party and the National Credit Union Administration is unable to adjust the third party claim; or

(4) The compromise of a particular claim, as a practical matter, will or may control the disposition of a related claim in which the amount to be paid may exceed $25,000.

(c) An administrative claim may be adjusted, determined, compromised or settled only after consultation with the Department of Justice when it is learned that the United States or any employee, agent or cost-plus contractor of the United States is involved in litigation based on a claim arising out of the same incident or transaction.

Thursday December 18, 2008 13:44

Tuesday November 25, 2008 email seen on email server [as opposed to email client]

Need more evidence of fraud?

Merely look at NOT-file-stamped bogus court document included with lawyer Hammar's October 31, 2008 letter!

"Ignore the evidence" strategy is what NCUA Region 5 is attempting.

Here's an example of a FILE stamped motion in CIV 97-266 MCA/LFG.

No word yet from NCUA OIG who is supposed to respond within one working day.

We haven't heard from the Ombudsman either.




Monday November 24, 2008 06:45

Matters get lots worse.

Sent confirmation 06:38.




Friday November 21, 2008 15:53

§ 793 describes procedure to take against NCUA in event we don't get our money back after submitting two prima facie loss affidavits.

We have phoned appropriate NCUA offices to lodge complaints.
You may call the OIG Hotline at 703 518-6357 from 8:00 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. EDT to speak with an OIG investigator . After hours, you may leave a message and your call will be returned the next business day.

We discovered by voice communication that Melinda Love is the Director of Region 5 and she is going to return any appeal to Kelly Lay! Let's see about this.

Do everything by the rules. NCUA Regulations.

We believe that NCUA unsigned, fraudulent, intitial determination warrant an appeal at NCUA region 5 headquarters.


http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/unsigned/unsigned.htm


Thursday January 29, 2009 10:03

Be very careful of the judicial system.



Albuquerque Journal Friday January 30, 2009

Judges Morales and Payne are dealing with are very dangerous because they have violated their oaths of office, have not followed the law, and some are involved in New Mexico felony violations of law for helping steal our $22,036.00 from our pension-protected Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union saving accounts.

Let's proceed with our NCUA fraud loss claim recovery action. And keep out of the way of these judges.

We observed at Sandia lab in the computer consulting division in about 1980 that computer use [measured on Control Data 6600 machines] declined precipitouly about a week before thanksgiving and did not resume to normal until about a week after new year.

So that's why we were fiddling with NCUA OIG and Ombudsman during this slack time.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncuaoig/ncuaoig.htm#donahue2

We must do with with a FORM. Here's the reason.
The mind thus turned loose, thus emancipated from facts, took unexpected directions...

John T. Flynn

Clearly, Lay's and even Donahue's minds have been emancipated from the facts.

So let's get NCUA to address the facts. Which include felony fraud and attempt to cover up genocide.

Let's respond line by line to Ms Lay's email responses referencing how NCUA guidlines and regulations were not followed.

We don't believe, based on content Ms Lay's writings, that her responses even warrant description of a determination.

Focus on getting our $22,036.00 back.
30-16-6. Fraud. Fraud consists of the intentional misappropriation or taking of anything of value which belongs to another by means of fraudulent conduct, practices or representations.

Whoever commits fraud when the value of the property misappropriated or taken exceeds twenty thousand dollars ($20,000) is guilty of a second degree felony
.

31-18-15. Sentencing authority; noncapital felonies; basic sentences and fines; parole authority; meritorious deductions. ...

(5) for a second degree felony, nine years imprisonment;

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncuaissues/ncuaissues.htm#ncuaissues



Green energy on its way; let's turn talk into reality comment.

Obama Must Halt America’s Moral Decline comment.

High tech has made our legal project possible. We continue to try to develop our high tech skills.

Smith and Wesson is helping.

Coveted U.S Attorney job spurs talk comment.





Monday December 22, 2008 07:05

Morales gave below notes to Payne at McDonald's at Lomas and San Pedro Friday afternoon December 19, 2008.

Morales delivered disturbing news that Social Security Administration in Albuquerque may have denied one of his family benefits because of his involvement in our legal project.

Allegation Morales related was that a computer screen at the Albuquerque Social Security office contained recorders of Morales litigation history.

National Credit Union Administration Regulations § 793.1-8

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/unsigned/unsigned.htm#socialsecurity




Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions (Guide)





Nowhere in judge Vazquez' December 11, 2008 order is explicit order written to take $11,018.00 from each of our SLFCU retirement-protected savings accounts. Therefore, no official court order exists anywhere to justify taking $11,018.00 from each of our SLFCU retirement-protected savings accounts.

Morales gave Payne a sheet with comments specific to NCUA Lay and SLFCU Advisory Committee head Felix.

We may allege insurance fraud at NCUA. We do this at the New Mexico state level.



Tuesday December 16, 2008 07:04



Irrational Housing Market Exuberance comment.
Ormat Technologies: A Look at Geothermal Energy comment.

New Mexico invested in Reserve Primary Fund and got $1 billion froze comment.

Iran visibility.

The importance of dialogue comment.
-----Original Message-----
From: bill payne [mailto:bpayne37@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:16 PM
To: Donahue, Michael L
Cc: Amorales58@Comcast.Net; oigmail@ncua.gov; ombudsman@ncus.org
Subject: Final Morales and Payne complaints about Region 5 employees Lay and Dixon

Mr Donahue

Our next step is to file a appeal letter with Region 5 director Melinda Love.

An appeal with exhaust administrative remedies and put is in position to sue according to NCUA Regulations if we don't get our money returned.

We have always sought peaceful settlement of these unfortunate matters.

Regards
Bill Payne

Monday December 8, 2008 13:38

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncuaoig/ncuaoig.htm#donahue

Mike Donahue
NCUA Inspector General Office
mdonahue@ncua.gov

Dear Mr Donahue:

We have assembled the evidence of misconduct against Region 5 Director of Supervision Kelly Lay and Ms Jean Dixon.

Our primary goal is to see that NCUA honors it insurance obligations to send us fraud loss claim insurance checks of $11,018.00 in compliance with National Credit Union Administration Regulations § 793.1-8 as soon as possible.

NCUA, we believe in view of the mp3 audio evidence, should terminate Ms Lay's and Ms Jean Dixon's employment. …





Signature pages added.

New final at 13:38.

Spell check complete 10:00.

NCUA Inspector General office enters our legal project with an mp3 recording taken from an analog tape phone conversation recording made Tuesday afternoon December 2, 2008.

Here's the audio announcement that the eletter to Mr Donahue was sent.

Here's the email ack.



Rarely with the Washington DC crowd answer the phone. Reason is that they want to have time to analyze what is said to them before responding.



Below email acknowledgment not read as of Friday December 5, 2008.



Reason is that we must complete other tasks first.

Morales is unavailable so we will post a signed copy later with a webcam photo of us holding the below letter or its revision.

We promised Mr Donohue that we would get the evidence to him by Thursday afternoon.


Monday December 8, 2008 13:38

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncuaoig/ncuaoig.htm#donahue

Mike Donahue
NCUA Inspector General Office
mdonahue@ncua.gov

Dear Mr Donahue:

We have assembled the evidence of misconduct against Region 5 Director of Supervision Kelly Lay and Ms Jean Dixon.

Our primary goal is to see that NCUA honors it insurance obligations to send us fraud loss claim insurance checks of $11,018.00 in compliance with National Credit Union Administration Regulations § 793.1-8 as soon as possible.

NCUA, we believe in view of the mp3 audio evidence, should terminate Ms Lay's and Ms Jean Dixon's employment.

We received the unusual, if not incompetent and unintelligent, below letter







Claims are not supported by any documents or audio evidence.

Claim "Further, we have contacted the court clerk for the United States District Court in Albuquerque and confirmed that the Orders of Garnishment were in effect and have not been withdrawn or invalidated." is particularly objectionable for lack supporting evidence.

If the court clerk thought the "Order Adopting Magistrate Judge's Findings and Recommended Disposition and orders of garnishment" was an official court document, then the clerk would have the required FILED stamp on it as it is on our August 01, 2008 motion to void judgment seen below.

Here is an authentic court filing in CIV 97-266 MCA/LFG. It bears the FILED stamp of the court clerk.




See Public Access to Court Electronic Records [PACER] pdf of official docket entry 151.

No further evidence is required to prove that our $22,036.00 was stolen by SLFUC CEO Christopher Jillson using a bogus court order.

Equally objectionable is Felix's statement "In response to your second allegation that the court orders upon which the Credit Union withdrew the funds from yours and Mr. Morales's accounts were invalid, the Supervisory Committee noted that the Credit Union's attorney, Kevin Hammar, asserts the legitimacy of the court orders in question in a letter addressed to you and Mr. Morales dated October 28, 2008."

Assertions are not evidence. We have provided written evidence in court records and mailings of the proof of our assertions.

Reason is that it continues to confirm our claims of fraudulently removal of $22,036.00 from our retirement-protected SLFCU saving account with below bogus court order.













Below email was read on December 4, 2008






NUCA guidelines appear not be followed again.

Here's the first libel letter.







We feel that the above email is further evidence that Ms Lay's employment should be terminated because Ms Lay did not send the report as required by NCUA Guidelines sent to SLFCU.

The report should have contained all of the written evidence that was provided on this matter, transcripts or audio files containing verbal communication with SLFCU, as well as statement given to Ms Lay by SLFCU employees, Board Members or Supervisory Committee members, or any other relevant communications.

We are also concerned that Region 5 director Ms Melinda Love has been implicated in non-involved in our payment of $22,036 fraud loss insurance claim. This is a result of the information given by Ms Dixon which is recorded below.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/unsigned/melindalove.mp3

Sincerely,


Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.net

William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net






Tuesday December 9, 2008 07:49

Domenici: 'We've changed New Mexico' comment.

Received  Saturday December 6, 2008.

We've been told that SLFCU appoints Supervisor Committee members to see if they will "work out" for Board members.

Received  Saturday Decemeber 6, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/summary/summary.htm#slfcusummary








Saturday Decemeber 6, 2008 13:24

Received  Saturday Decemeber 6, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/summary/summary.htm#slfcusummary




Friday December 5, 2008 06:52

Look at what is asked in letter to Mary E Herrera.

Clipper's response is wierd.

Clipper letter contains factual errors.

Morales wants to now file formal complaints. If we don't settle, of course.

Received Tuesday November 25, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/unsigned/unsigned.htm#clipper









November 10, 2008

Patricia Herrera

Director/ Operations Division
Office of the Secretary of State
325 Don Caspar, Suite 300
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87503

Re: Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union -

Notary Complaint Dismissal

Dear Patricia,

The Attorney General's Office reviewed the Notary complaint made by William H. Payne and Arthur R. Morales of alleged misconduct by the Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union ("Credit Union"). The Attorney General may only take action against an individual Notary Public for a spe- cific violation of the Notary Public Act, NMSA 1978, §§ 14-12A-1 to 14-12A- 26. Mr. Payne and Mr. Morales did not name an individual Notary Public nor did they provide substantive evidence of wrongdoing. A blanket allega- tion against Sandia FederalCredit Union is insufficient.

Mr. Payne and Mr Morales listed a web site in their complaint. The web site appears to contain imformation relating to a 1999 federal order of Garnishment. The complainant's have attempted to reopen this case. It appears a Notary at the Credit Union refused to notarize affidavits relating to this lawsuit. The other allegation is that a Credit Union Notary attempted to persuade Mr. Payne to sign an affidavit. The allegation was made withoutproof or without the name of the Notary Public involved. The complaint is being returned with no further action warranted by this office.

Sincerely,

Anerson E Clipper
Attorney General I

AEC/pm I

Enclosure: **f

cc: Arthur R. Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87107

William H, Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87111















-----Original Message-----
From: bill payne [mailto:bpayne37@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:17 PM
To: region5@ncua.gov
Cc: Brown, Don; dft@newmex.com; Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us; James.Flores@state.nm.us; angel.espinoza@state.nm.us; region5@ncua.gov; mayor@cabq.gov; jhamman@cabq.gov; kmccabe@cabq.gov; mcastro@cabq.gov; mcallaway@cabq.gov; dbowdtch@cabq.gov; rshultz@cabq.gov; bill.leonard@nara.gov; foialo@nsa.gov; Eichhorst, Julia E.; the.secretary@hq.doe.gov; alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov; jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov; tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil; board_of_directors@slfcu.org; MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us; Amorales58@Comcast.Net
Subject: We believe this action is not in accord with NCUA RULES AND REGULATIONS § 701.39 PART 701

Ms Lay:

Let's all hope for peaceful prompt settlement of these unfortunate matters. Bill payne

Thursday November 13, 2008 14:28

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/libel/libel.htm#lay

Ms Kelly Lay, Director
Division of Supervision
1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Office (602) 302-6000
Fax (602) 302- 6024
E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

Dear Ms Lay:

Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union [SLFCU] lawyer Kevin Hammar writes in his October 21, 2008 letter seen at at http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#hammarthreat




Thursday November 13, 2008 14:28

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/libel/libel.htm#lay

Ms Kelly Lay, Director
Division of Supervision
1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Office (602) 302-6000
Fax (602) 302- 6024
E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

Dear Ms Lay:

Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union [SLFCU] lawyer Kevin Hammar writes in his October 21, 2008 letter seen at at http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#hammarthreat
For these reasons, you are now both notified that the credit union now invokes its right to exclude both of you from any and all of its business premises. Neither of you may enter onto credit union property for any reason. All of your legitimate credit union business hereafter may be conducted only by internet or mail. Should you ignore this notice, the credit union may elect to have you removed as trespassers

We believe this action is not in accord with NCUA RULES AND REGULATIONS § 701.39 PART 701
which states
Section 4. Continuation of membership. Once a member becomes a member that person may remain a member until the person or organization chooses to withdraw or is expelled in accordance with the Act and Article XIV of these bylaws. A member who is disruptive to credit union operations may be subject to limitations on services and access to credit union facilities. A credit union that wishes to restrict services to members no longer within the field of membership should specify the restrictions in this section.

Proper procedure requires

Article XIV. Expulsion and Withdrawal Section 1. Expulsion procedure; expulsion or withdrawal does not affect members’ liability or shares. A member may be expelled by a two-thirds vote of the members present at special meeting called for that purpose, but only after the member has been given the opportunity to be heard. A member also may be expelled under a nonparticipation policy adopted by the board of directors and provided to each member in accordance with the Act. Expulsion or withdrawal will not operate to relieve a member of any liability to this credit union. All amounts paid in on shares by expelled or withdrawing members, before their expulsion or withdrawal, will be paid to them in the order of their withdrawal or expulsion, but only as funds become available and only after deducting any amounts due to this credit union.

This procedure was not followed before Hammar wrote the above quoted second paragraph in his October 31, 2008.

Hammar's February 22, 2008 and October 28, 2008 written on behalf of SLFCU appear to have violated New Mexico criminal laws of 30-11-1. Libel. and 30-3A-2. Harassment; penalties.

We ask that our SLFCU services be restored by close of business Friday November 14, 2008.

Sincerely,




Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.net




William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net

distribution

dft@newmex.com
Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us
James.Flores@state.nm.us
angel.espinoza@state.nm.us
region5@ncua.gov
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
kmccabe@cabq.gov
mcastro@cabq.gov
mcallaway@cabq.gov
dbowdtch@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil
board_of_directors@slfcu.org
MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us






Thursday November 13, 2008 15:05

Signed copy added.

Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions (Guide)

How do we handle member complaints?

4.12 You play an essential role in reviewing members’ complaints. You will want to make certain you handle complaints in an impartial and independent manner to ensure that you treat all members fairly. If a complaint identifies a policy or procedure that needs correction, you will want to follow through to ensure that the board of directors and credit union management implement corrective changes.

Types of Complaints. Although the types of member complaints vary greatly, the following are somewhat representative.

Concerns with:

1. Lending policies and procedures.

2. Loan rejections.

3. Annual meetings.

4. Share withdrawals.

5. Dividend rates and terms.

6. Credit union services.

Regardless of the nature of the complaint, you must conduct a full and complete investigation.

Receipt of complaints. A member may complain either directly to you or, as frequently happens, to the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA). NCUA will normally refer the matter to you. It will request that you investigate the complaint and furnish the NCUA regional office with a written report. The regional office then sends the member a final response letter. Investigation of complaints. Regardless of how the complaint is brought to your attention, it is suggested that you follow these general steps when investigating the complaint (not necessarily in the order given.)

(a) Read the complaint letter. Briefly outline the areas of complaint and questions asked by the complainant.

(b) Determine the appropriate type of investigation.

(c) Interview the complainant, if possible. A personal interview with the member is preferable. If you are able to interview the member:· Conduct interviews in private.

· Be careful not to express an opinion as to the probable validity of the complaint.

· Conduct discussions in a courteous and professional manner. Convey a sincere regard for the member’s concerns.

· Keep an open mind. Some statements made by the member may not be valid, but they do not disprove his/her entire complaint. The member usually knows little of the internal operation of the credit union, or standards of credit worthiness.

· If the complaint is routine or simply a disagreement, inform the member that they can resolve it directly with credit union staff.

(d) Review the complainant’s credit union file.

(e) Review pertinent written credit union policies and procedures, and determine their compliance with applicable credit union laws and regulations.

(f) Review pertinent unwritten procedures (i.e., practices observed by the credit union).

(g) Interview appropriate credit union officials and/or employees.

(h) Review several loans, if necessary, to determine the actual practices of the credit union and how they relate to the complaint.

(i) Determine the validity of the complaint.

· Do not rely on the credit union’s manager or employees to do the investigation for the committee. You should obtain all information firsthand, where possible. Try to determine what actually happened, rather than obtaining various versions of what happened.· You should not initiate a joint meeting between the complainant and the credit union officials as a means of resolving disputes or expediting the investigation. This is often counter-productive and may intimidate the complainant. You act as a liaison between members and management when disputes arise.

· Remember that no one likes to be investigated. Credit union officials and employees will often be defensive and complainants may also be antagonistic. You will need to be very skillful and tactful in obtaining the necessary information without alienating any of the parties involved.

j) Work with the officials to develop plans to correct any improper, unfair, or discriminatory practices, if applicable, or make appropriate recommendations.

k) Have corrective action implemented or obtain agreements from appropriate credit union officials and/or employees they will make corrections within a specified time.

l) When applicable, prepare and submit the written report to NCUA’s regional office. Write the report in a clear, concise, and factual manner. NCUA will usually send the report to the complainant as part of the regional office’s final response to the individual.

m) If the complaint was made directly to the committee (and NCUA is thus not involved ), prepare and submit a written response to the member. vn) You should maintain a file of all complaint resolutions.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/libel/libel.htm




Wednesday November 12, 2008 11:36
-----Original Message-----
From: bill payne [mailto:bpayne37@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:27 AM
To: region5@ncua.gov
Cc: Amorales58@Comcast.Net; MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us; board_of_directors@slfcu.org; tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil; jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov; alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov; the.secretary@hq.doe.gov; Eichhorst, Julia E.; foialo@nsa.gov; bill.leonard@nara.gov; rshultz@cabq.gov; dbowdtch@cabq.gov; mcallaway@cabq.gov; mcastro@cabq.gov; kmccabe@cabq.gov; jhamman@cabq.gov; mayor@cabq.gov; region5@ncua.gov; angel.espinoza@state.nm.us; James.Flores@state.nm.us; Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us; dft@newmex.com
Subject: we are concerned that NCUA may not be properly processing our fraud loss claims in accordance to its rules

Ms Lay:

Mr Morales and his family are under financial stress largely due to the money stolen from his SLFCU savings account.

Click on the below link to see the full text of our eletter to you.

Let's all hope for peaceful settlement of these unfortunate matters before they get worse.

We welcome SLFCU's Supervisory Committee's help

Bill payne


Signed copy of email posted Wednesday November 12, 2008 10:51

Morales quotes were from the Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions (Guide), Morales reported by phone on Wednesday November 12, 2008..
2.04 You may suspend, by unanimous vote, any board member, executive officer, or credit committee member. (See below). Suspension is a serious measure and must be thoroughly considered before action is taken.

· If you suspend someone, you will call a special meeting of the members to act on the suspension. · The special meeting must be held within seven to fourteen days after the suspension.

· The person being suspended must be given an opportunity to present a defense and be given due process.

We're going to make every effort to get our money back, then send Jillson, Hammar, Zavitz, Armijo, and Garcia to prison for felony theft of $22,036.00. And get notaries Strong and Martinez notatary licences removed too.

Payne searched for "supervisory committee" for what Morales read on phone.
§ 715.3 General responsibilities of the Supervisory Committee.
(a) Basic. The supervisory committee is responsible for ensuring that the board of directors and management of the credit union -
(1) Meet required financial reporting objectives and
(2) Establish practices and procedures sufficient to safeguard members’ assets. ...

(4) Policies and control procedures are sufficient to safeguard against error, conflict of interest, self-dealing and fraud.


Part 701
Article IX. Supervisory Committee

Section 5. Powers of supervisory committee – removal of directors and credit committee members. By unanimous vote, the supervisory committee may suspend until the next meeting of the members any director, board officer, or member of the credit committee. In the event of any suspension, the supervisory committee must call a special meeting of the members to act on the suspension, which meeting must be held not fewer than 7 nor more than 14 days after the suspension. The chair of the committee acts as chair of the meeting unless the members select another person to act as chair.

Section 6. Powers of supervisory committee -- special meetings. By the affirmative vote of a majority of its members, the supervisory committee may call a special meeting of the members to consider any violation of the provisions of the Act, the regulations, or of the charter or the bylaws of this credit union, or to consider any practice of this credit union which the committee deems to be unsafe or unauthorized. ...

Section 3. Removal of directors and committee members. Notwithstanding any other provisions in these bylaws, any director or committee member of this credit union may be removed from office by the affirmative vote of a majority of the members present at a special meeting called for the purpose, but only after an opportunity has been given to be heard. If member votes at a special meeting result in the removal of all directors, the supervisory committee immediately becomes the temporary board of directors and must follow the procedures in Article IX, Section 3.




Looks like we've provided all necessary materials to get our money back.

§ 793.2 Administrative claim; when presented; place of filing.

§ 793.4 Administrative claim; evidence and information to be submitted.

may 2008 793-2 (c) Property damage. In support of a claim for damages to or loss of property, real or personal, the claimant may be required to submit the following information or evidence:
(1) Proof of ownership.
(2) A detailed statement of the amount claimed with respect to each item of property.
(3) An itemized receipt of payment for necessary repairs or itemized written estimates of the cost of such repairs.
(4) A statement listing date of purchase, purchase price, market value of the property as of date of damage, and salvage value, where repair is not economical.
(5) Any other evidence or information which may have a bearing on the responsibility of the United States for the injury to or loss of property or the damages claimed.
(d) Time limit. All evidence required to be submitted by this Section shall be furnished by the claimant within a reasonable time. Failure of a claimant to furnish evidence necessary for a determination of his claim within 3 months after a request therefor has been mailed to his last known address may be deemed an abandonment of the claim. The claim may be thereupon disallowed.

§ 793.5 Investigation, examination, and determination of claims. When a claim is received, the constituent agency out of whose activities the claim arose shall make such investigation as may be necessary or appropriate for a determination of the validity of the claim and thereafter shall forward the claim, together with all pertinent material, and a recommendation based on the merits of the case, with regard to the allowance or disallowance of the claim, to the Office of General Counsel, National Credit Union Administration to whom authority has been delegated to adjust, determine, compromise and settle all claims hereunder.


§ 793.7 Payment of approved claims. (a) Upon allowance of his claim, claimant or his duly authorized agent shall sign the voucher for payment, Standard Form 1145, before payment is made. (b) When the claimant is represented by an attorney, the voucher for payment (S.F. 1145) shall designate both the claimant and his attorney as ‘‘payees.’’ The check shall be delivered to the attorney whose address shall appear on the voucher.
We're pro se, of course, so the checks should go to us. :-)

We suspect that NCUA employees may be a bit in shock about the potential seriousness of these matters.

A short and deadly history of how we got to where we are.

Morales phoned at13:20. We will sign and post the final as we did with the question letter to New Mexico Secretary of State Mary Herrera.

Let's see what New Mexico governor bill richardson and New Mexico attorney general gary king do.

Wednesday November 12, 2008 10:49

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualoss/ncualoss#lay

Ms Kelly Lay, Director
Division of Supervision
1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Tempe, A2 85281
Office (602) 302-6000
Fax (602) 302- 6024
E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

Dear Ms Lay:

Thank you very much for the copy of your October 31, 2008 letter seen at http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#ncua.

While you correctly state
Enclosed is a letter of complaint from William H. Payne concerning issues related to the filing of two fraud loss claim affidavits.

we are concerned that NCUA may not be properly processing our fraud loss claims in accordance to its rules set forth in Your Insured Funds

Our two fraud loss claims are prima facie in the sense that evidence of felony criminal fraud is again supported by Sandia Laboratory Federal Union [SLFCU] lawyer Kevin Hammer's October 31, 2008 threatening letter seen at http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#hammarthreat .

Hammar includes in that letter the exhibit showing that the court order does not carry the FILED stamp of the court and is therefore a bogus court order.





Page 9 in Your Insured Funds states

Rather the NCUA sending Mr Morales and I each a check $11,018.00 for an insurance claim, you appear to be handling our fraud loss claim as a complaint against SLFCU.

We conclude this from your statements to Mr Felix:

Please:
o Review Mr. Payne's complaint in accordance with the instructions and suggestions set forth in the enclosed copy of Section 4.12 of the Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions (Guide).
o Reply directly to Mr. Payne (this is a change from section 4.12(1) of the Guide).
o Send us a copy of your reply within the next 25 business days along with the
documentation supporting your review and conclusion.

We feel that it is unreasonable for us to wait up to 25 business day for a response from Mr Felix for the reason the evidence fraud is prima facie seen in the above enclosure to lawyer Hammar's October 31, 2008 letter.

Copy of your October 31, 2008 letter appears to us as an attempt to have the SLFCU Supervisory Committee pressure SLFCU management into returning our stolen $22,036.00.

We ask that NCUA send us fraud loss claim insurance checks of $11,018.00 each by close of business Friday November 14, 2008 in compliance with National Credit Union Administration Regulations § 793.1-8.

Sincerely,




Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.net




William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net

distribution

dft@newmex.com
Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us
James.Flores@state.nm.us
angel.espinoza@state.nm.us
region5@ncua.gov
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
kmccabe@cabq.gov
mcastro@cabq.gov
mcallaway@cabq.gov
dbowdtch@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil
board_of_directors@slfcu.org
MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us

We consulted with a federal credit union manager on the next step. He agreed with our next step.

NCUA's Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions.


Tuesday November 11, 2008 06:56

We converted Lay letter to text on Monday November 10, 2008.

We need to study NCUA rules.

NCUA loss claim page.

NCUA letter arrived on Thursday November 7, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#ncua












National Credit Union Administration.
REGION V
October 31, 2008


Sam Felix, Chairperson
Supervisory Committee
Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union
3707 Juan Tabo Blvd., NE Albuquerque, NM 87111

Dear Mr. Felix:

Enclosed is a letter of complaint from William H. Payne concerning issues related to the filing of two fraud loss claim affidavits.

Please:
o Review Mr. Payne's complaint in accordance with the instructions and suggestions set forth in the enclosed copy of Section 4.12 of the Supervisory Committee Guide for Federal Credit Unions (Guide).
o Reply directly to Mr. Payne (this is a change from section 4.12(1) of the Guide).
o Send us a copy of your reply within the next 25 business days along with the
documentation supporting your review and conclusion.

By copy of this letter, I am advising Mr. Payne that:
o You will handle the complaint.
o We will review your reply to determine if further action by this office is needed.
o He should submit any further correspondence on this matter directly to you at the above address.

To be of assistance, I am enclosing information on the National Credit Union Administration and the complaint process. In addition, we have forwarded the original email from Mr. Payne to your email address due to the size of the files/links included.

If there are questions, please contact the Division of Supervision at 602-302-6000.

                                                                   Sincerely,


                                                                    Kelly Lay
                                                                    Director, Division of Supervision
V/DOS/MMA:ma
FCU 05851-K6
Enclosures
cc: Mr. Bill Payne

1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301- Tempe, A2 85281 - Office (602) 302-6000 - Fax (602) 302- 6024 - E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

CONSUMER COMPLAINTS

Who is NCUA?

The National Credit Union Administration (NCUA) is an independent agency under the Executive Branch of the United States Government. NCUA charters, regulates, examines, and supervises federal credit unions. We also insure member accounts in all federal credit unions and in most state-chartered credit unions. You can identify a federally insured credit union by the NCUA logo displayed at teller stations and in advertisements. The Federal Credit Union Act, accessible on our website at www.ncua.gov sets forth the authority and responsibilities of NCUA and the powers of federal credit unions.

Where is NCUA's Region V?

The regional office is in Tempe, Arizona, and supervises federal credit unions in Alaska, American Samoa, Arizona, California, Colorado, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming.

What is a credit union?

Credit unions are not-for-profit, democratically controlled, member-owned, financial institutions serving members who share a common bond of employment, association, or residence. Credit unions were established to meet the credit and savings needs of consumers, especially persons of modest means. Credit unions are organized as cooperatives. The manager and staff are paid, but the board and other officials are volunteers elected to office by the members.

The board of directors directs and controls the credit union and hires or elects officials, management, and staff to run the day-to-day operations. If the federal credit union has a credit committee, the committee is responsible for acting on loan applications and appointing loan officers. If the federal credit union does not have a credit committee, the board of directors appoints loan officers.

As a regulator, NCUA does not own, operate, or control credit unions, nor do we establish their operating policies and procedures. We do not have the authority to overturn individual lending decisions made by federal credit unions. We also cannot dictate the range of services they offer.

How can I tell if a credit union has a federal or state charter?

By the name. Federal credit unions have the word "federal" in their names. State chartered credit unions do not. For example, XYZ Federal Credit Union would be a federal charter; XYZ Credit Union would be a state charter.

Who is responsible for investigating member complaints in federal credit unions?

The Federal Credit Union Act mandates the appointment of a supervisory committee in each federal credit union.

The supervisory committee consists of volunteers. They are responsible for the annual audit, the verification of members' accounts, and the investigation of member complaints.

What do I do if I have a problem with a federal credit union?

Start by asking the credit union to correct the problem. You can do this orally or in writing. If you believe the credit union's staff is unresponsive to your inquiry or complaint, address your concerns in writing to the president/chief executive officer of the credit union or to the chairperson of the supervisory committee. You do not need the names of these officials to write them. Address your correspondence by title and send it to the credit union address shown on your statement of account.

How can NCUA help me with my complaint?

Each region has staff available to answer questions, offer guidance, and assist with member complaints. We do not have the resources or expertise to offer legal or accounting assistance. How do I contact Region V staff if I have a question?

Call us at 602-302-6000                           Write to us at:

                                                                   Director, Division of Supervision
                                                                   1230 W. Washington Street, Suite 301
                                                                   Tempe, AZ 85281

Fax correspondence to us at 602-302-6024 Email us at R5DOSMail@ncua gov.

How do I file a complaint with NCUA?

If you are unsuccessful in resolving your complaint directly with the federal credit union, you may file a formal complaint by writing us at the address shown above. No special form is required. You may also fax or email your complaint to us at the fax number or website shown above.

Your letter, fax, or email message needs to identify the full name and address of the credit union, explain the problem clearly and briefly, and state what action you want the credit union to take to resolve the problem. If you send documentation supporting your complaint, use legible photocopies. Do not send us your original statements or other documents. If you have already communicated with the federal credit union in writing, enclose a copy of the correspondence along with the reply you received. Be sure to include your name and postal address in the letter or email message.

What will NCUA do when you receive my written complaint?

Our standard procedure is to acknowledge receipt of your complaint, log it into our records, and ask the federal credit union's supervisory committee to conduct an investigation. We ask the supervisory committee to reply directly to you, or delegate staff to reply, and send a copy to us. The process generally takes from 2 to 6 weeks.

Depending on the credit union's response or the type of complaint, we may take additional steps or use a different approach. If we do, we will notify you in writing.

What consumer protection laws does the National Credit Union Administration enforce in federal credit unions?

We enforce the following laws in federal credit unions:

The Equal Credit Opportunity Act, implemented by the Federal Reserve Board's Regulation B. This law prohibits discrimination in credit granting based on the applicant's race, color, religion, national origin, sex, marital status, or age (provided the applicant has the capacity to contract). It also prohibits discrimination against an applicant because all of his or her income derives from a public assistance program or because the applicant has in good faith exercised any right under the Consumer Credit Protection Act. In addition, the law requires creditors to notify applicants of action taken on their applications and to report credit history in the names of both spouses on an account.

The Electronic Funds Transfer Act, implemented by the Federal Reserve Board's Regulation E. This law establishes the basic rights, liabilities, and responsibilities of consumers who use electronic fund transfer services and of financial institutions offering these services.

The Expedited Funds Availability Act, implemented by the Federal Reserve Board's Regulation CC. This law establishes rules and timeframes for financial institutions to make deposits available for withdrawal. The law also requires each financial institution to disclose its funds availability policies to customers or members when they open their account.

The Truth in Lending Act, implemented by the Federal Reserve Board's Regulation Z. This law promotes the informed use of consumer credit by requiring disclosures about its terms and costs. The regulation also gives

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consumers the right to cancel credit transactions secured by a lien on a consumer's principal dwelling, regulates certain credit card practices, and provides a means for fair and timely resolution of credit billing disputes.

The Truth In Savings Act, which requires financial institutions to disclose fees, dividend rates, and other terms concerning accounts to members or potential members before they open their share accounts. Part 706 of the National Credit Union Administration's Rules and Regulations. This law prohibits a number of unfair credit practices, including the pyramiding of late charges, and requires a notice of disclosure to cosigners before they become obligated on a loan.

The Fair Credit Reporting Act, This law primarily governs credit-reporting agencies, whose regulator is the Federal Trade Commission. However, the law requires credit unions and other creditors to: (1) notify consumers when they take adverse action on the basis of information in consumer reports; and (2) supply customers with the name and address of the consumer-reporting agency used.

Part 716 of the National Credit Union Administration's Rules and Regulations, This law: (1) requires a credit union to provide notice to members about its privacy policies and practices; (2) describes the conditions under which a credit union may disclose nonpublic personal information about consumers to nonaffiliated third parties; and (3) provides a method for consumers to prevent a credit union from disclosing that information to most nonaffiliated third parties by "opting out" of that disclosure.

In federal credit unions, NCUA is also the enforcement authority for:

o Consumer Leasing, Regulation M. This regulation implements the consumer leasing portions of the Truth in Lending Act, and requires meaningful disclosures to lessees for comparing consumer lease terms with other leases and credit transactions.

o Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. This law was enacted to regulate debt collection practices and eliminate abusive practices by debt collectors.

NCUA cannot represent consumers in settling claims or recovering damages. However, if your complaint brings a violation to our attention, we will take steps to ensure the federal credit union complies with applicable laws and regulations.

What if the complaint is not resolved to my satisfaction?

Complaints caused by error or misunderstanding is often resolved voluntarily by federal credit unions. However, many complaints stem from factual or contractual disputes between the federal credit union and the member. If you and the credit union are unable to reach a mutually agreeable settlement in such a situation, only a court of law can impose a remedy and award damages. We recommend you consult an attorney for guidance if you want to consider pursuing a legal remedy.

Who should I contact if my complint involves a financial institution other than a federal credit union? ?

If your complaint concerns a state chartered credit union, please see our web page for:

Alaska
Arizona
California
Colorado
Hawaii
Idaho
Montana
New Mexico
Nevada
Oregon
Utah
Washington
Wyoming

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If your complaint concerns a federal savings and loan (S&L) or a federally chartered savings banks (F.S.B.), you should contact:

The Office of Thrift Supervision
Office of Consumer Programs
1700 G Street, NW
Washington, DC 20552
(202) 906-6237 1-800-842-6929
E-mail: Costumer.cpmplaints@ots.treas.gov
Internet: http://www.ots.treas.gov

If your complaint concerns a national bank, you should contact:

Office of the Comptroller of the Currency Customer Assistance Group
1301 McKinney Street
Suite 3710
Houston, TX 77010
1-800-613-6743
FAX: 1-713-336-4301
E-mail: customer.assistance@occ.treas.gov
Internet: http://www.occ.treas.gov

If your complaint concerns a state bank regulated by the Federal Reserve Board, you should contact:

Federal Reserve Board
Division of Consumer and Community Affairs
Washington, D. C. 20551
(202) 452-3946
Internet: www.federalreserve.gov

If your complaint concerns a federally insured state bank not regulated by the Federal Reserve Board, please contact:

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
Division of Compliance and Consumer Affairs
550 17th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20429
(202) 942-3100 1-800-934-FDIC
E-mail: consumer@fdic.gov
Internet: www.fdic.gov

If your complaint concerns a credit reporting agency or a lender other than a credit union, a bank, or a savings and loan, you should contact:

Federal Trade Commission
Consumer Response Center
6th and Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D. C. 20580
(202) 326-2222
E-mail: consumerline@ftd.gov
Internet: www.ftc.gov

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Monday November 10, 2008 12:32

"SLFCU lawyer apparently wrote a very threatening letter which Morales opened."

Morales appears to be correct.

Phil Sisneros psisneros@nmag.gov

We've met Phil Sisneros. He offered to set up a meeting with Gary King.
Morales reported by phone that this is a lawyer threat letter.

We're going to make every effort to get our money back, then send Jillson, Hammar, Zavitz, Armijo, and Garcia to prison for felony theft of $22,036.00. And get notaries Strong and Martinez notatary licences removed too.

NCUA loss claim page.


http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#hammarthreat






Hammar keeps sending bogus court order with no FILED stamp.









Tuesday November 11, 2008 10:34

New Mexico Secretary of State Herrera also sent Morales below letter.

Note that copy went to New Mexico attorney general Gary King.

We're going to make every effort to get our money back, then send Jillson, Hammar, Zavitz, Armijo, and Garcia to prison for felony theft of $22,036.00. And get notaries Strong and Martinez notatary licences removed too.

Response to our email request for information madeThursday November 6, 2008 13:56

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#herrera

arrived in Saturday November 8, 2008 mail.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualoss/ncualoss#herrera






Thuesday November 11, 2008 12:34

We'll be posting the Hammar threatening letter soon. But we have other business to attend to.

Morales and Payne signed Herrera letter.

Herrera response arrived in Saturday November 8, 2008 mail.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualoss/ncualoss#herrera

Thursday November 6, 2008 13:56

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#herrera

Honorable Mary Herrera
Secretary of State
New Mexico State Capitol
325 Don Gaspar, Suite 300
Santa Fe, NM 87503
MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us

Dear Ms Herrera:

New Mexico Notary Public Handbook states
VI. Removal from Office (14-12A-26) A Notary Public may be removed from office by the Governor if he: ...

E. commits a malfeasance in office.

Tuesday afternoon September 23, 2008 a Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union [SLFCU] notary public attempt to persuade William H Payne to sign an affidavit of "forged endorsement" in apparent in violation of (14-12A-10) Avoidance of Influence.

Thursday afternoon October 23, 2008 a second SLFCU notary public refused to notarize fraud loss claim affidavits submitted by Arthur R Morales and William H Payne in apparent violation of (14-12A-8) Refusal to notarize.

Certification of a Notary Public’s Acts (14-12A-22) states
K. Official Misconduct. “Official misconduct” means: 1. a notary public’s performance of an act prohibited, or failure to perform an act mandated ...

Removal from Office (14-12A-26) states
A Notary Public may be removed from office by the Governor if he
...
E. commits a malfeasance in office.

$22,036.00 was fraudulently removed from our retirement-protected SLFCU saving accounts using a bogus federal court order as justification.

Our SLFCU savings accounts are federally insured by NCUA.

Manager at New Mexico Educators Federal Credit Union and NCUA fraud investigator David told us to submit loss claim through SLFCU.

But, of course, SLFCU refuses to process our affidavits which where notarized at the New Mexico Educators Federal Credit Union on Thursday afternoon October 23, 2008

Who investigates for the State of New Mexico our two notary malfeasance prima facie [all evidence of guilt is in writing or in mp3 audio recordings] complaint and then forwards the recommendation to Governor Richardson that the two SLFCU notary publics be removed for malfeasance in office.

We feel that this is a best way to proceed to file our fraud loss claims with NCUA [ NCUA loss claim page] to get our money back within three days of receipt of our claims.

Please respond email by close of business on Friday October 7, 2008.

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,


Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.net

William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net

distribution

dft@newmex.com
Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us
James.Flores@state.nm.us
angel.espinoza@state.nm.us
region5@ncua.gov
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
kmccabe@cabq.gov
mcastro@cabq.gov
mcallaway@cabq.gov
dbowdtch@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil
board_of_directors@slfcu.org





Maybe a reason below?

Tuesday November 4, 2008 14:09

This is envelope a. It arrived in mail on Thursday October 30, 2008










Thursday October 30, 2008

This is envelope b. It arrived in mail on Thursday October 30, 2008









Thursday October 30, 2008 13:26

A short and deadly history of how we got to where we are.

Morales insisted that a hand-delivered copy of our email to the SLFCU board be delivered.

Morales also insisted, like he was doing with SLFCU lawyer Hammer, to get an affidavit of delivery.

At about 09:35 Payne asked SLFCU receiptionist for notary service. It was denied.

Here the denial conversation in mp3 format.




Payne left the affidavits and Board of Directors email with George Castillo.

Payne then went to New Mexico Educators Federal Credit Union to tell manager what happened.

Manager responded that Payne is a member/owner of SLFCU [a credit union, not a bank] and therefore has rights which include complaining to the Board of Directors.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#handdelivery
AFFIDAVIT

HAND DELIVERY OF

1 Tuesday October 28, 2008 16:54

Hand carried hard copy and notarized on October 23, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#board

2 Payne fraud loss affidavit

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#paynencua

3 Morales faud loss affidavit notarized on October 23, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#moralesncua


to SLFCU on Wednesday October 29, 2008 TIME ________________


____________________________________________
William H Payne
NOTARIZED


Thursday October 30, 2008 06:58

-----Original Message-----
From: bill payne [mailto:bpayne37@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:17 PM
To: board_of_directors@slfcu.org
Cc: Amorales58@Comcast.Net; tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil; jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov; alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov; the.secretary@hq.doe.gov; Eichhorst, Julia E.; foialo@nsa.gov; bill.leonard@nara.gov; rshultz@cabq.gov; dbowdtch@cabq.gov; mcallaway@cabq.gov; mcastro@cabq.gov; kmccabe@cabq.gov; jhamman@cabq.gov; mayor@cabq.gov; region5@ncua.gov; angel.espinoza@state.nm.us; James.Flores@state.nm.us; Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us; dft@newmex.com; MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us; admin@torraco4da.org
Subject: Fraud loss claim


Tuesday October 28, 2008 16:54

Hand carried hard copy and

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#board

Dear board_of_directors@slfcu.org



Purpose of this email ask the Board of Directors help to ensure proper processing of two fraud loss claims.



refused to notarize two fraud loss claims on Thursday afternoon October 23, 2008.

Robert Chavez, executive vice president of Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union, entered Martinez's cubical and confirmed the refusal to notarize.

Here is an mp3 recording of that refusal.

Manager at New Mexico Educators Federal Credit Union and NCUA fraud invesitgator David told us to submit loss claim through SLFCU.

Within a half hour of the Martinez and Chavez refusal, New Mexico Educators Federal Credit Union notary public performed mandatory notarizing of our two fraud loss claims affidavits for recovery of $22,036.00 [$11,018 for each count of fraud] seen at
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#paynencua

and
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#moralesncua

from the protected savings accounts of William H Payne and Arthur R Morales.

Two outcomes of our request to SLFCU are possible:

1 We receive cashier's checks for these amounts by close of business on Wednesday October 29, 2008.

2 If SLFCU's decision is not to return our money, then we ask that SLFCU forward our loss claim to
REGION V (TEMPE)
Regional Director
National Credit Union Administration
1230 West Washington Street,
Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Telephone: 602-302-6000
Fax: 602-302-6024
region5@ncua.gov

by close of business on Thursday October 28, 2008.

We ask for proof in writing of the NCUA action.

Sincerely,



Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.Net

William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net

distribution

admin@torraco4da.org
MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us
dft@newmex.com
Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us
James.Flores@state.nm.us
angel.espinoza@state.nm.us
region5@ncua.gov
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
kmccabe@cabq.gov
mcastro@cabq.gov
mcallaway@cabq.gov
dbowdtch@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil



Tuesday October 28, 2008 08:43

We consulted with the manager of a credit union who previously advised to file our loss claim with SLFCU. on Monday October 27, 2008.

We told the manager of SLFCU's refusal to notarize our two affidavits by Wendy Martinez and Robert Chavez, executive vice president of Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit.

He responded, "Whew!"

The manager said if a document is submitted for notarization and the submitter has the proper identification, then notarizing is mandatory.

The manager agreed that for the next step SLFCU's Board of Directors should be contacted to try to remedy the problem.

Google Albuquerque DA Kari Brandenburg. Look at entry number 1. Without Internet our legal project would not work.

We're going to make contact with her opponent Lisa Torraco.

We visited Avicenna tomb websites on Sunday. This is located in Hamedan, Iran. And posted a comment at one.



Sunday October 26, 2008 06:09

Blogging Stocks theft from our of $11,018 comment.

Note photo of Avecinna Tomb, Hamedan.

Eid-e shoma mubarak.

50 years ago to the University of Colorado in the summer of 1958.

Algebra knowledge acquired from professor Zirakzadeh.

---Original Message-----
From: Iran Defence Forum [mailto:support@irandefence.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:01 PM
To: bpayne37@comcast.net
Subject: Happy Birthday from Iran Defence Forum

Hello billp37,

We at Iran Defence Forum would like to wish you a happy birthday today!



Friday October 24, 2008 06:09

SLFCU refused to notarize affidavits.

But they got notarized anyway.
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#slfcuncua

New Mexico Secretary of State
Mary Herrera
Contact information
MaryE.Herrera@state.nm.us
dft@newmex.com
Paula.Templeton@state.nm.us
James.Flores@state.nm.us
angel.espinoza@state.nm.us

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#refusal


New Mexico Notary Public Handbook.

VI. Removal from Office (14-12A-26)
A Notary Public may be removed from office by the Governor if he:
A. submits an application for appointment as a Notary Public which contains a false statement;
B. is or has pleaded guilty or nolo contendere to a felony or been convicted of a felony or a misdemeanor arising out of a notarial act performed by him;
C. engages in the unauthorized practice of law;
D. ceases to be a New Mexico resident; or
E. commits a malfeasance in office.

(14-12A-8) Refusal to notarize.

A. A notary public shall not refuse to perform a notarial act based on the principal’s race, age, gender, sexual orientation, religion, national origin, health or disability or status as a non-client or non-customer of the notary public or the notary public’s employer.

B. A notary public shall perform a notarial act for a person requesting such an act who tenders the appropriate fee, unless:
1. the notary public knows or has good reason to believe that the notarial act or the associated transaction is unlawful;
2. the act is prohibited; or
3. the number of notarial acts requested practicably precludes completion of all acts at once, in which case the notary public shall arrange for later completion of the remaining acts.

Thursday October 23, 2008 16:08

Let's see what happens!



refused to accept this letter.

Martinez would not write that she refused to notarize.



Thursday October 23, 2008 13:03

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#slfcuncua

Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union
Credit Union Center
3707 Juan Tabo Blvd. NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-293-0500

We have submitted two fraud affidavits for recovery of $22,036.00 [$11,018 for each count of fraud] seen
at
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#paynencua

and
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#moralesncua

from the protected savings accounts of William H Payne and Arthur R Morales.

We ask to receive cashier's checks for these amounts by close of business on Tuesday October 28, 2008.

If SLFCU's decision is not to return our money, then we ask that SLFCU forward our loss claim to

REGION V (TEMPE)
Regional Director
National Credit Union Administration
1230 West Washington Street,
Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Telephone: 602-302-6000
Fax: 602-302-6024
region5@ncua.gov

on Friday October 24, 2008.

We ask for proof in witing of this action.

Sincerely,



Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-410-2339
amorales58@comcast.Net

William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net

distribution

region5@ncua.gov
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
kmccabe@cabq.gov
mcastro@cabq.gov
mcallaway@cabq.gov
dbowdtch@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil
board_of_directors@slfcu.org

Tuesday October 28, 2008 16:28

"Pattern and practice" of criminal activity.

There is a reason we do things in pairs.

Let's get our money.

And, in the process, send SLFCU CEO Christopher Jillson , SLFCU lawyer Kevin Hammer, Assistant US attorney John J Zavitz, federal magistrate MALDEF judge Lorenzo F Garcia, and MALEF judge M Christina Armijo to prison.

Eight page affidavit in MS Word format.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#moralesncua


 



1 Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union [SLFCU] CEO Christopher Jillson fraudulently removed $11, 018.00 from the saving account of Arthur R and Rebecca Ann Morales on July 22, 2008.

See green star.



2 Jillson and SLFCU lawyer Kevin Hammar falsely claim that withdrawal was legally made as directed by valid court order.

Valid court transaction must carry seal of clerk of court as evidenced by



3 Here is the rule
Rule 79. Books and Records Kept by the Clerk and Entries Therein

(a) Civil Docket. The clerk shall keep a book known as “civil docket” of such form and style as may be prescribed by the Director of the Administrative Office of the United States Courts with the approval of the Judicial Conference of the United States, and shall enter therein each civil action to which these rules are made applicable. Actions shall be assigned consecutive file numbers. The file number of each action shall be noted on the folio of the docket whereon the first entry of the action is made. All papers filed with the clerk, all process issued and returns made thereon, all appearances, orders, verdicts, and judgments shall be entered chronologically in the civil docket on the folio assigned to the action and shall be marked with its file number. These entries shall be brief but shall show the nature of each paper filed or writ issued and the substance of each order or judgment of the court and of the returns showing execution of process. The entry of an order or judgment shall show the date the entry is made. When in an action trial by jury has been properly demanded or ordered the clerk shall enter the word “jury” on the folio assigned to that action.

4 Official PACER docket of court order, seen below, does not carry seal of clerk of court and thus is a BOGUS court order which was used to steal $11,018.00 from saving account.










See Public Access to Court Electronic Records [PACER] pdf of official docket entry 151.

Above BOGUS ORDER is worthless pieces of paper with no legal standing but used to defraud Arthur R and Rebecca Ann Morales of $11,018.00 from their SLFCU savings account.

END OF AFFIDAVIT

Thursday October 23, 2008 16:00

Let's get our money.

And, in the process, send SLFCU CEO Christopher Jillson , SLFCU lawyer Kevin Hammer, Assistant US attorney John J Zavitz, federal magistrate MALDEF judge Lorenzo F Garcia, and MALEF judge M Christina Armijo to prison.

Nine page affidavit in MS Word format.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#paynencua


 


1 Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union [SLFCU] CEO Christopher Jillson fraudulently removed $11, 018.00 from the saving account of William H. and Patricia L. Payne on July 22, 2008.

See Yellow star.



2 Jillson and SLFCU lawyer Kevin Hammar falsely claim that withdrawal was legally made as directed by valid court order.

Valid court transaction must carry seal of clerk of court as evidenced by



3 Here is the rule
Rule 79. Books and Records Kept by the Clerk and Entries Therein

(a) Civil Docket. The clerk shall keep a book known as “civil docket” of such form and style as may be prescribed by the Director of the Administrative Office of the United States Courts with the approval of the Judicial Conference of the United States, and shall enter therein each civil action to which these rules are made applicable. Actions shall be assigned consecutive file numbers. The file number of each action shall be noted on the folio of the docket whereon the first entry of the action is made. All papers filed with the clerk, all process issued and returns made thereon, all appearances, orders, verdicts, and judgments shall be entered chronologically in the civil docket on the folio assigned to the action and shall be marked with its file number. These entries shall be brief but shall show the nature of each paper filed or writ issued and the substance of each order or judgment of the court and of the returns showing execution of process. The entry of an order or judgment shall show the date the entry is made. When in an action trial by jury has been properly demanded or ordered the clerk shall enter the word “jury” on the folio assigned to that action.

4 Official PACER docket of court order, seen below, does not carry seal of clerk of court and thus is a BOGUS court order which was used to steal $11,018.00 from saving account.










See Public Access to Court Electronic Records [PACER] pdf of official docket entry 151.

Above BOGUS ORDER is worthless pieces of paper with no legal standing but used to defraud William H. and Patricia L. Payne of $11,018.00 from their SLFCU savings account.

END OF AFFIDAVIT

Monday October 20, 2008 11:58

Hand delivered Friday October 17, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#moraleshammar







Tuesday October 14, 2008 13:28

Note that there is no FILED stamp on ORDER ADOPTING ....

This is a bogus court order used to steal our SLFCU saving money which is insured against loss by NCUA.

So let's file a claim with NCUA.



Below letter was hand delivered to Hammar by Morales.



Morales said he spoke with Hammmar.

Hammar, Morales reported, appears to be upset.








BOGUS COURT ORDER






http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/pnmelectric/altreport/altreport.htm

"Pattern and practice" of criminal activity.

SLFCU CEO Jillson has committed felony fraud in writing with the help of lawyers Hammar, Zavitz, and crooked MALDEF judges Garcia and Armijo.

We've figured-out to send them all to prison.

Thursday October 2, 2008 15:48

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#morales
Caroline Strong writing at top of yellow paper.

Morales writing below on yellow paper.



Morales immediately wrote the request which is seen on the background white.

Morales said he showed Strong Payne affidavit with FRAUD printed on it.

Strong told Morales that he can't do that, Morales said.

Morales that Strong looked upset.

We will see.

Let's attack ... using a mp3 audio editor.

We're actually learning [as opposed to trying to learn] an mp3 audio editor.

Listen to Banjo Bob play sourwood mountain.

Let's do some creative essential audio editing.

Thursday September 25, 2008 09:46

-----Original Message-----
From: bill payne [mailto:bpayne37@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:14 AM
To: cstrong@slfcu.org
Cc: Amorales58@Comcast.Net
Subject: Purpose of this email is to document the contents of my meeting with you on Tuesday afternoon September 23, 2008.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#strong

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/hearing/hearing.htm#strong


 




cstrong@slfcu.org

Wednesday September 24, 2008 06:06

Dear Ms Strong:

Purpose of this email is to document the contents of my meeting with you on Tuesday afternoon September 23, 2008.

I told you that I had talked to a manager of another credit union and an investigator at National Credit Union Administration about the proper process for return of our $11,018.00 which was fraudulently stolen from our SLFCU savings account.

I told you that I wished to start the paperwork to file a complaint with SLFCU's insurance company.

You then left your cubical for an extended time.

When you returned you apologized for your extended absence.

You then asked from my driver license from which you logged information into your notary public log.

You then presented the below AFFIDAVIT for me to sign.



I responded that our money was stolen as a result of fraud, not a forged document.

You told me that you did not have a affidavit for money stolen from a savings account as a result of fraud.

I asked you who SLFCU's insurance company is. You responded by handing me the below booklet.



I thanked you and left.

If you feel that any part of the above naration is incorrect, then I ask you to respond to me by email so that we can resolve any misperceptions. Otherwise, the above naration accurately reflects our communications.

Regards
bill
 

Inside the pamphlet







page 9 below

Note that Jillson committed more fraud with the below FORGED ENDORCEMENT attempted affidavit.

30 meg audio file is too long. So we've downloaded AudioEdit from Tucows. We will try to split the audio file into several sectons.

We went from analog audio in the David recording to mp3. We ordered equipment to go directly to mp3. All for less than $18 including shipping.

We talked to another credt union manager about what to do.

David at NCUA appears to have given Payne incorrect information and would not send Payne a loss claim form.

Fortunately we recorded David and transformed the recording to a 30,232 Kbyte mp3 file which you can listen to.


NEW MEXICO CRIMINAL AND TRAFFIC LAW MANUAL

NM governor Bill Richardson

the Brandenburg criminal complaint.

NM BBB

Lawyers in congress.

Think of deficient education as the basis for these problems whether lawyer or liberal arts educated bureaucrat, media person or politician.

Shattuck/St Mary's class of 1956

Morales and Payne have been cheated out of their money for 7th amendment right to 12 person trial by jury civil lawsuits guaranteed inviolate by New Mexico and federal constitutions.

You can see our receipts for 12 person jury trial lawsuits in Exhibit A, Exhibit C, Exhibit E, Exhibit G, Exhibit H, Exhibit K and Exhibit L all for prima facie cases which we paid more than $250 each.

Look at the receipts: three are for $297 and two are for $322 [against former judge W John Brennan].

New Mexico federal judge James A[moco] Parker and Wyoming judge William F Downes.

Roadmap to lawsuits 1 Monday November 26, 2001 08:18

Plaintiff(s) State Federal dockets
saved April 12, 2004
Metropolitan
Morales
Payne
cv - 2000 10289
Monday September 9, 2002 14:21
00 cv 1574  
Morales
Payne
CV-2001-03118
Wednesday April 3, 2000 13:55
01 cv 0634  
Morales
Payne
CV-200106293
Wednesday April 3, 2002 13:49
01 cv 1198  
Payne CV 2000-10278
Monday September 9, 2002 13:43
00 cv 1677  
Payne cv 2001-05900
WWednesday April 3, 2002 13:17
01 cv 1132  
Payne CV 2001 07794
Monday September 9, 2002 13:43
Never!  
Morales
Payne
CV 2002 3425
Monday September 9, 2002 13:43
Never!  
Payne     cr1231xx 03
Monday September 9, 2002 1
Morales
Payne
Utah writ petition
Wednesday August 4, 2004 09:01
03CV228  
Payne Utah writ petition
Wednesday August 4, 2004 09:01
03CV288  
Morales
Payne
US Supreme court Rule 22 writ petition
Wednesday August 4, 2004 09:01
   


Iran visibility links Monday February 5, 2007 13:16

Is Bakhtiar dead?

William H Payne and Arthur R Morales

True story of how Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jimmy Carter got caught committing criminal genocide by inciting Saddam Hussein to attack Iran. A fifteen year legal battle with the feds.

Note another absolutely brilliant solution. Absolutely brilliant means that you didn't have to do it: someone else did it for you.

Our history research for our pro se legal project book has been done for us.


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