10/28/2009 01:51:28
Absolutely STUNNING! Great to know we are succeeding!
In August 2007 and June 2008, I wrote monster articles projecting Iraqi Security Forces planned development by 2012 and, in some cases, beyond. I am not going to do that this year. Instead I have been writing separate articles addressing the components of the Iraqi Security Forces:
Iraqi Total Force Mobilization remains to be addressed. This article is about the two elements of the Iraqi Joint Forces Command that have not been addressed: Logistics and training.
The Iraqi Joint Forces Command (JFC) is the Ministry of Defense’s command staff and has six major subordinates. Those are the Iraqi Ground Forces Command (IGFC), the Iraqi Air Force, the Iraqi Navy (including Marines), the Directorate General for Intelligence and Security (DGIS), the Iraqi Logistics Operations Command (ILOC), and the Iraqi Training and Doctrine Command (ITDC). The last two are the focus of this article.
Both ILOC and ITDC provide upper level support to the operational forces. To explain, the brigade and division support is referred to as level 1 and level 2. It is support is at the operational/tactical levels. The corps- and army-level support is called level 3 and level 4. This operational/strategic support feeds the operational/tactical forces. Level 3 and level 4 are the upper level support.
Logistics
The Iraqi Logistics Operations Command is the senior headquarters for all logistics in the Iraqi Ministry of Defense. Additionally, this command supports the Ministry of Interior forces while they start building their own level 3 and level 4 support forces. The primary Iraqi level 4 (Army-level) subordinate command is the growing Taji Joint Base Factory (JBF). Taji JBF is a three brigade-equivalent logistics and maintenance complex:
Iraq has not formed corps yet but, planning and initial elements for these corps support elements was noted in 2008. Prior to 2006, five corps-level Regional Support Units existed but, they were re-designated and re-assigned as divisional-support when the decision was made to expand the Iraqi Army past 10 divisions.
At least four, possibly five level 3 support brigades are needed for the Iraqi Army. [Also, three SBs are needed for the expanding Federal Police and one SB for the DBE.]
The Bayji National Supply Depot’s first battalion was formed in the summer of 2008 and became independent on 16 December 2008. When fully formed, this support brigade will support the divisions of the Northern Corps of the Iraqi Army. The Bayji National Ammunition Depot Support Battalion was planned to be joined by an Equipment Depot (Repair), a Supply Depot, and a Fuel Depot. Plus it is likely that a transport regiment will be added to this brigade. This appears to have been delayed by the budget crunch and the resulting freeze in new personnel during the fall of 2008.
The Najaf National Supply Depot areas were surveyed in 2008 and the initial Najaf National Ammunition Depot Support Battalion was planned to be formed in the fall of 2008. This, like Bayji, was also planned to expand into a support brigade that, when formed, will support the divisions of the Southern Corps of the Iraqi Army. This appears to have been delayed by the budget crunch and the resulting freeze in new personnel during the fall of 2008.
Additional Iraqi Army corps-level (level 3) support brigades are probably planned for the Central Corps (probably at Balad) and the Quick Intervention Corps (probably at Al Asad).
The Ministry of Interior is currently supported by the Taji JBF while its own Army level support base is built next to the Taji JBF. This support will probably continue since the Department of Border Enforcement has not formed a corps-level support structure and the Federal Police is expanding faster than its logistics with the steady “nationalization” of provincial Emergency Police. The only level 3 or level 4 logistics formation in the Ministry of Interior at this time is the Federal Police’s Sustainment Brigade. At least three more of those brigades will be needed in MoI: two more for the Federal Police to support their expanding force and one for the DBE. The current plan is to focus on level 1 and level 2 support in the MoI forces.
[For standard logistics and training elements at levels 1 and 2, see Appendix B of the ISF OOB.]
Training
The Iraqi Training and Doctrine Command (ITDC) provide the training for the Iraqi Army above division-level. Additionally, ITDC supports the separate training programs of the Iraqi Navy (including Marines), Iraqi Air Force, and other independent components of the Ministry of Interior. The ITDC is split into two major subordinate commands: The Tactical Training Command (TTC) and the National Defense University (NDU).
Tactical Training Command (TTC) includes the Tactical Doctrine Center and Lessons Learned Center. Additionally the training centers throughout Iraq are under the command of the TTC:
The National Defense University (NDU) is the ITDC’s other subordinate command. This is the officer and senior NCO training commands. Directly under the NDU are the National Defense College, the Defense Language Institute, the Defense Strategic Studies Institute, the Center for Military Values, Principles & Leadership Development, the Sergeant Major Academy, and the Joint Staff College. The four officer academies are also under this command. Each can train 1,000 to 1,500 officers per year. They are the:
At its peak in 2007-2008, Iraqi training facilities were fielding a new brigade every month in addition to filling out the existing under-manned forces to 120-135 percent manning. When the budget crunch caused a hiring freeze and a closure of the boot camps in the fall of 2008 the Iraqi Army was 20,000 personnel over authorization and:
All of that has been on hold. The only programs that have continued is the formation of engineering elements, the filling out of level 1 and level 2 logistics elements, and the filling out of the level 4 Taji Depot complex. So far in 2009, only two new under strength independent brigades and a handful of battalions have been organized from the excess manning in the existing units.
Logistics and training is not exciting or sexy to most people. They are just essential to all operations.
so you are saying that iraq from the losgistics side have sufficient Facilities for handling Level-3 Corps ... but it all about Managing and starting HQs for those 4 corps ???
Almaleki (08/26/2009 05:40:42)
NO. They do not have level 3 (Corps) logistics. They canablized it to expand level 1 and level 2 in 2007/2008. They will need to build the corps level support.///What they have is capable level 4 (Army), NO Level 3 (Corps), capable level 2 (Div), and insufficient level 1 (Bde).
DJ Elliott (08/26/2009 07:17:24)
Hi DJ Interesting news I found lately. Which is that the French had offered Iraq their extra Leclerc battle tanks. Yes you heard it. But from what I can tell the Iraqi side still sees them as expensive, this report is from 2008. Check these links. The second link is a new about the development of iraqs ISR capabilities. So what do you think DJ why didnât Iraq get them? http://airforces.fr/tag/procurement/ http://www.defencetalk.com/iraqi-air-force-brings-isr-capabilities-online-21315/
jack winters (08/26/2009 11:39:27)
Without details, I cannot judge the deal. I also suspect the Georgia events may have changed the French government's attitude towards armor reductions...
DJ Elliott (08/27/2009 12:01:07)
Hi DJ Check out this video of Iraqi unites test firing 81MM mortars And tell me what you think which unite is it? http://www.sofmag.com/wp/2009/08/iraqi-army-soldiers-certify-with-88mm-mortar/
Jack winters (08/27/2009 12:48:23)
Hi DJ The Iraqi navy is very close to ordering their 2 OSV they are to be 90m long and must be able to support 35m patrol boats check this notice out. And since DJ youâre a Navy man can you tell what it means it has a lot of technical details? http://www.oilpubs.com/oso/article.asp?v1=8734
jack winters (08/27/2009 01:38:59)
The Ships are going to have; Deck space shall be provided for: One (1) MSI 30mm GWS (forward of the pilot house); Four (4) .50 cal machine gun weapons stations; Six (6) M240 machine gun weapons stations; Ammunition storage shall be provided. The 30MM MSI is going to be the main gun for the Iraqi Navy both the OSV and Patrol boats have the same gun.
Jack winters (08/27/2009 01:55:55)
WoooooW ,, Jack you have great Links ... waiting for DJs Reply
Almaleki (08/27/2009 04:21:09)
Jack: On the 81mm mortars, that is 1st Battalion, 40th Brigade, 10th IA Division at a range near Nasiriyah. The video is from the DVIDS archive and I saw it a couple of days ago. I am set up to get notice of anything that posts to DVIDS that is "Iraq".////At least 20 IA battalions are to get their 6-tube 81mm mortar "platoons" this year. Receipt of the new mortars started in June.
DJ Elliott (08/27/2009 11:42:40)
Jack: It is a supply/support vessel. Note the slow speed and the support capability for refuel/rewatering the PBs and FABs plus diver support.//// Interestingly, is is to have a CIC that could be used for command/control of the fast boats. Flagship as well as mother-ship to the small PBs?//// Also notice the 5 meter pier depth. There is not a frigate in existance that does not draw more water. Unless the Iraqi Navy plans to more than double the dredged depth of the piers, you can forget about anything larger than PGGs.
DJ Elliott (08/27/2009 11:57:59)
Hi DJ Associated Press 08/27/09 11:29 AM EDT WASHINGTON â A division of Lockheed Martin Corp. received a $9.8 million contract from the U.S. Air Force to perform needed onsite maintenance and to support the Iraqi military, the Pentagon said late Wednesday. The nation's largest defense contractor by revenue will provide support at heavy maintenance facilities in the region, and technical assistance and support the Iraqi Air Force. Lockheed will also mentor Iraqi technicians toward self-sufficiency. DJ is this related to C-130J buy or what? http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/category/industryarticle.aspx?feed=AP&Date=20090827&ID=10340653&industry=IND_AEROSPACE_DEFENSE&isub= http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/economy/55391987.html
Jack winters (08/28/2009 12:36:21)
Hi DJ Yesterday the Serbian defense minister and the Iraqi ministry of defense signed an agreement worth 100 mil for munitions and military equipment. This is on top of the first agreement which was worth more than 200 mil. It seems we really like Serbian equipment. So what do you think DJ, What do you think they ordered? Do you think they ordered the LAZAR APC? http://www.srbija.gov.rs/vesti/vest.php?id=58393&change_lang=en http://www.mod.gov.rs/novi_eng.php?action=fullnews&id=1689
Jack winters (08/28/2009 01:01:54)
The contract does not specify airframe. Given that Iraq is adding two airbases a year to their infrastructure, this is probably building up those bases.//// Probably ordering artillery from the Serbs. Lazar was of interest to MoI, not MoD...
DJ Elliott (08/28/2009 12:18:55)
Well ,,, DJ ithink the missing Part ( FA ) is going to be seen ???
Almaleki (08/28/2009 04:00:59)
Hi DJ The only artillery system Serbia has that can be used in Iraq is the Nora B-52. Its an eastern bloc 152cal gun. Do you really think that Iraq is going to get that caliber instead of NATO 155 caliber !??
Jack winters (08/28/2009 04:01:37)
The announcement said "munitions and other military equipment". That is ammo.//// I do not think they are buying anything more than ammo and spares for what they have and are currently receiving.//// But, anything is possible and we do not have any hard data beyond what is in the articles...
DJ Elliott (08/28/2009 04:18:08)
check this : http://www.srbija.gov.rs/vesti/vest.php?id=58393&change_lang=en ,,,, " The Minister specified that the agreement was signed between the Serbian Jugoimport SDPR Company and the Iraqi Defence Ministry. " and here is links for What that Company do : http://www.military-today.com/artillery/oganj_2000.htm ,,, http://www.military-today.com/artillery/orkan_cer.htm
Almaleki (08/28/2009 04:51:55)
I think that Serbians Say J as Y or Reverse :)
Almaleki (08/28/2009 04:56:54)
J in slavic and germanic languages is pronounced like the Y is in english. //// They do more than just MRLs. But, that is one of the missing components...
DJ Elliott (08/28/2009 07:19:10)
Then you think that Iraq MIGHT have ordered those ?? well there features and spec are GREAT .... hope that their Performance is the same as written ...
Almaleki (08/29/2009 08:44:31)
look at this ... Ababil MLRS made in Iraq / Yugoslavia : http://www.military-today.com/artillery/m87_orkan.htm ,,, as you see the Orkan CER is Based on that ,, DJ ,, Does Serbia give it is Manufacturing Blueprints ??
Almaleki (08/29/2009 08:49:00)
The Nora B-52 is also buitl in the same Company .... what do you think DJ ?? i will visit their Official Site ... http://www.yugoimport.com/ ..........
Almaleki (08/29/2009 08:51:17)
they do Air Defences and APCs UAVs ,, they Do everything !!!! well the choices now went up to 150 Choice ... what would we buy from them ??!!!
Almaleki (08/29/2009 08:53:12)
MBTs !!!!! this for Artiallary http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&cid=9
Almaleki (08/29/2009 08:54:41)
OK ,, they Built Gazzelies ,,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=5 AND Guns ,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=2 ,, Anti-Armor ,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=3 ,, Mortars ,, we use those : http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=4 ,,, Variety of Howtizers : http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=8 ,,, They Build M84 Tanks and upgrade T-72 ,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=10 ,, Anti - Air Defences : http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=17 ,,, Radars : http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=37 ,,,,,,, Jam Systems ,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=38 ,, Mine Detectors , Electronic Camo ,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=39 ,, NBC systems ,, http://www.yugoimport.com/index.php?name=Content&pid=40 ,, And I am Gonna Cry why dont we have such Company in Iraq :(( ,, i am reading their report : http://www.yugoimport.com/slike/y_report_26.pdf
Almaleki (08/29/2009 09:03:08)
the one with J ... not Y website : http://www.ecdlcentar.com/ ,, it is serbian there is much people visiting them from Iraq ..weird ... it is some kinda test center ... but related to The one with Y ... come on where is the English Site !!!
Almaleki (08/29/2009 09:07:34)
Ok i think that Jugoimport SDPR is A computer Licence !!! do you think that they work on electronics ?? of Yugoimport ?? i am sorry ,, i wrote much and did not read your Comment right ,, forgive me :)
Almaleki (08/29/2009 09:19:08)
Y is the english spelling.//// J is the Serbian spelling.//// That company is the government owned exporter of ALL Serbian Arms Manufacture. Previously for all Yugoslavian Arms Exports.//// Jugo or Yugo is the short form for Yugoslavia. Arms manufacture in Yugoslavia was concentrated in Serbia, electronics in Croatia, etc...
DJ Elliott (08/29/2009 12:11:49)