Three years have sped past
since the first issue of FootZine. In
that time, we have seen the subscriber list
increase to nearly 600, including podiatrists and
podiatric assistants, nurses, students, billers,
suppliers and other interested parties. FootZine
was created to provide a resource for
communication between podiatric offices, giving us
a way to share information that will help us in
our office lives. I'm happy to say that the
concept seems to be working very well.
The FootZine web site, at www.FootZine.com,
stores all of the coding, HIPAA, practice
management and other articles and columns that
have appeared in FootZine. There is
also an Archive of all past issues of FootZine,
and a search feature to access information
contained in the web site and previous broadcasts.
The Networking and Calendar pages are
ever-changing as positions are found/filled,
equipment bought/sold, and seminars come/go.
Many thanks to Drs. Rick Horsman and Scott
Schroeder, who have been kept especially busy with
coding questions in recent months, and to the
other regular contributors to FootZine.
Thanks to the subscribers who encouraged me to
begin this publication and have stayed with us
through the technical ups and downs, and have been
patient when real life interfered with the
publishing schedule.
I want to express my appreciation again to Barry,
John, Lynn, Marlene, Deb, Ann, Hal, Ray, Heather,
Tom, and Alison, the FootZine Advisory
Board, who are always there, if often behind the
scenes, with their valuable insights and ideas.
Thanks again to Ray Posa of R. Francis Associates
for continuing to provide FootZine with its
domain and internet home. And to my husband,
Michael, for making sure everything works.
~ Gayle
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"Do not go where the path may lead, go where
there is no path and leave a trail." -
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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From: Lynn Homisak, PRT
re: Employee
Handbook (Volume 107)
Dr. Colon,
If you are interested in a custom-crafted
office manual, please contact me at Lynn@soshms.com.
Through confidential telephone consultations with
you, we will obtain specific information for your
individual practice which we will then use to
produce a completely customized practice manual
featuring your practice policies, procedures and
practice forms. Even your practice logo will
be included. You can obtain more information
about this unique service on our website at www.soshms.com
under "products." If you have any
questions regarding this, I will be happy to
address them with you.
Thank you,
Lynn Homisak, PRT
SOS Healthcare Management Solutions, LLC
www.soshms.com
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From: Debbie McGovern
re: Software
Packages (Volume 107)
Gayle,
Regarding a question asked on FootZine.
When choosing a medical program for our office we
chose Medisoft. The program is very easy to
use and after 2 years we are pleased with it.
The training CDs are extremely helpful and worth
the cost. We want to warn others however,
that the service for the software is less than
desirable. Wait time for help is a minimum
of one hour. The technical staff has
difficulty relating to the customer who may not
understand the technology. We chose the
package rather than just the software which
included a six month service. In that time
we were able to learn enough so that we have not
had to use their support service since.
Still learning a lot from FootZine.
Thank you for your efforts.
Debbie McGovern, Office Manager
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From: Gail Bennett
re: Software
Packages (Volume 107)
I use Medisoft and have for many years.
While it is limited and I do wish it did things
that it doesn't, for the price I feel it works
quite well. The biggest problem I have
noticed is getting reliable backup support.
We use Focus Medical in Spokane, WA but have heard
others who have also used Focus and were NOT happy
with them. If I can help you with any
Medisoft questions please feel free to contact me.
Gail Bennett
with
Dr. Ronald J. Douglas
(509) 838-2929
Gailbpmac@aol.com
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From: Jenny Gilliland
re: Diabetic Shoes
Hello again Gayle,
I have a question to pose.
How can DME suppliers (ie: people who come in to
town and set up at Motels) guarantee that
everyone qualifies for diabetic shoes as they
advertise?
We do an evaluation to determine if a diabetic
patient qualifies for diabetic shoes. How
can other suppliers dispense shoes without a
professional evaluation of their feet?
Thanks for your help!
Jenny G.
Tennessee
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From: Joyce Berman
re: Seminars for
Assistants in Pennsylvania
Hi. I have a question for FootZine.
I am an inactive member now living in PA with PMAC
certification. I need a seminar between
October and April (I think that's when we renew)
to keep my certification. Are there any
seminars coming up in the Pennsylvania (or
surrounding states) during those months?
Thanks for the help and for the ezines.
Joyce Berman
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From: Bob M.
re: Squeaky
Orthotics
All powder has done for my prescription orthotics
is create a fragrant cloud just at [the back] of
my heels. The squeak remains.
Bob M.
*_* Editor's note: Can anyone offer
some good ideas to Bob about eliminating the
squeak in his orthotics? *_*
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From: Joanne Fallon
re: Scrubs
Do you know of any company that makes scrubs
especially for podiatry offices?
Joanne Fallon
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From: Charity O'Connor
re: WSPMAA
Update
Hi all!
With summer coming to an end and fall creeping in,
I’m sure you’re all looking
forward to our upcoming seminar as
much as I am. I have been hard at work
trying to find new topics to present based on your
suggestions. Here are a few of the topics
that will be presented at the fall seminar,
October 15th at Providence [Colby Campus
Professional Building] in Everett, WA:
*Presenting a Professional Image, *Sterilization
Techniques, and *First Aid training in the
afternoon. It’ll be a day packed full of
great information, and we are excited to see you
all there. Please don’t forget to fill out
the registration form and return it promptly.
Lunch will be provided, and we’ll need an
accurate head count to make sure everyone is fed!
Aside from the fall seminar, I have also been
working on putting together a few AIDS classes.
There were not enough people that responded to
schedule a class. I will send out another
inquiry later this fall. For those of you
who did respond, I will be in contact with you and
give you some resources to take the class sooner.
It’s been a busy few months, but I enjoy seeing
things come together nicely. See you all
soon!
Charity O'Connor
Vice President, WSPMAA
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From: Susan Scanlan, DPM
re: WSPMA Nurse
Footcare Course
Whew, that was a big issue! Hi, can I give
you a link to our nurse class for an ad?
[See below - Editor]
Susan Scanlan DPM
Executive Director WSPMA/Region VII
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Calendar
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WSPMAA Fall 2005 Seminar
October 15, 2005
8:30 AM - 5:00 PM
Cascade Room of the Professional Building at
Providence Everett Medical Center/Colby Campus
1321 Colby Avenue
Everett, WA
425-261-2000
For more information contact: Charity
O'Connor, CPC
Vice President, WSPMAA
Charitywa@yahoo.com
For map or directions go to:
http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=1321+Colby+Ave,+Everett,+WA
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WSPMA Nurse Footcare Course
WHEN: November 11 & 12, 2005
TIMES: 8:00AM to 5:00PM
WHERE: Auditorium at Swedish Hospital, Providence
Campus, Seattle, Washington
CONTACT: Susan Scanlan, DPM, via e-mail link or
(866)343-6999
DIRECTIONS: Search for Swedish Hospital,
Providence Center Directions
COST: $150
Contact: http://www.wspma.org/wspma/nursefootcare.html
FootZine's Calendar page is found at http://www.footzine.com/FZ_4.htm
*_* Networking
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Positions Available
PODIATRIC OFFICE ASSISTANT
needed for a growing urban practice under new
ownership in the Seattle area. Must be able
to work with a diverse clientele. Must also
be interested in expanding and marketing the
practice. Looking for a positive, energetic
person who is able to abide by practice policies
and procedures and loves to see new growth.
Inquire at Phone: 425-644-7696, Fax: 425-644-7692.
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Dear Gayle:
I am looking for a podiatric medical assistant.
Front office skills would be helpful also. My
practice is located in Auburn Hills, Michigan.
Please call 248-377-0033.
Harold Koehler
hmkdpm@comcast.net
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Greetings,
My name is Akilah McRoy and I have been a
Registered Nurse for the past 19 years.
Additionally I am also a Licensed Nail Technician.
I have extensive experience as an agency
administrator, clinical supervisor, case
management and most recently wound care manager
for a long term acute care facility. I would
now like to explore opportunities as a freelance
assistance for podiatrist to assist with follow up
care for your home bound clients. I am
located in the southern California Los Angeles
area. I would be very happy to meet with any
podiatrist in Los Angeles County area to further
explain how I can be an asset to you and your
clients. Please feel free to notify me at
(310) 722-4046.
Akilah McRoy,RN/Licensed Nail Tech
Notices of positions wanted or positions
available, as well as other "classified"
information, are welcome. They are posted at the FootZine
web site's Networking page. Have a look at http://www.footzine.com/FZ_6.htm
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Feeture Article
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Crystal-Clear Coding Q & A
by Rick Horsman, DPM, and Scott
Schroeder, DPM
The First Question
(from Volume 107):
Gayle,
Would you please explain to me how these can and
cannot be used in a podiatry setting.
We gave been told that 10080 is not an allowable
code with Medicare. Any other one we could use?
Thanks for your help!
Jenny Wood
Executive Vice President
Wood Medical Billing Medical Professional
Resources
The First Answer:
10080 is incision and drainage of a Pilonidal
cyst. I would recommend using 10060-
incision and drainage of abscess. In the CPT
book you will see that this includes essentially
everything we see in Podiatry that needs to be
I&D'd.
Scott Schroeder, DPM
Wenatchee, WA
The Second Question (from Volume 107):
Hi Gayle,
As per your advice, I visit FZ site often.
It has
helped me learn a lot. But I need more help
in
understanding the appropriate use of modifiers:
1. For Bilateral procedures, ins. either denies or
pays
half on the second procedure. Certain
procedures like 20550,
11750 do not qualify for modifier -50 so we billed
them with
RT/LT modifier or T modifier but still got
rejected. 11750 was
done on both lateral and medial borders so we
added modifier
-51 for multiple procedures (with unit of service
2) but that
caused confusion too.
2. Similarly for bunion surgery(28113 rt/lt) do we
need
to use any modifier?
3. For orthosis (L codes), do we need a modifier
to get
paid since that is always bilateral?
Please advice.
Regards,
SG
The Second Answer:
Bilateral procedures typically pay half for
the second procedure. Different insurance
companies may handle these differently on how they
want you to bill them to get paid. I would
recommend calling your provider representative
from the particular insurance company you are
having problems with and ask them directly how to
get paid for work your doctor has done. If
you want to play darts and just keep taking stabs
at it to see if you get paid you can try the
following: If the right and left, and T
modifiers are not working try the -59 modifier
which means different site. We use this on
our multiple surgical procedures and have had very
few problems. This holds true for injection
codes too. L codes such as L3030 or L3000
are per "each" foot. They should
be billed with a right and left modifier and never
be billed as a "pair". Example- if
your price for a pair of orthotic devices is $250
you would bill L3000-RT for $125 and L3000-LT for
$125.
Scott Schroeder, DPM
The Third Question (from Volume 107):
This is my first time accessing your web site.
I am needing any coding information possible in
regards to the trimming of corns or callosities
(11055 11057) when billing Medicare Part B in the
state of Tennessee.
Is it covered under any circumstances, and how to
bill?
Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Caryl McCartt
The Third Answer:
For the Fine State of Tennessee I would
recommend you contact your Medicare provider
representative (yes- they are supposed to have
them everywhere but many offices do not know they
exist) Contact your regional Medicare
carrier and ask for a provider representative for
Podiatry. If they don't have one
specifically for Podiatry they should be able to
get you to someone who can help. Ask for the
routine foot care policies relating to 11055,
11056 and 11057. They should be able to get
you to the information whether it be on-line or
they can send you something. Most likely
on-line these days.
In the state of Washington these are covered
services and we bill the codes the following way:
For one callous on a patient who is "at
risk" [DP and PT pulses non-palpable- or DP
or PT pulse non-palpable and three other findings
indicating trophic changes (thin skin, decreased
hair, thickened nails, etc)we would bill 11055- Q8
with a Dx of 700 (callous) and 443.9 (unspecified
peripheral vascular disease). If two-four
callouses you would use the 11056 and five or
greater 11057. There are other ways of
billing it in our state with different secondary
diagnosis depending on various "at risk"
conditions and the policy is quite lengthy but
that is the gist of it. I do not know if the
same policies hold true for Tennessee but your
local rep should be able to help you with that.
Scott Schroeder, DPM
The Fourth Question:
Hi Gayle,
I was wondering if you can offer any help on how
we can get Medicare to reimburse us for Code
A4590, special casting material. We have
used it with these diagnoses and have been denied
- primary, 729.5, secondary, 825.25,
tertiary, 707.14. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Mary Triolo
Alvarado Podiatry Center
The Fourth Answer:
The appropriate code for cast supplies for
Medicare are as follows:
Q4037- cast supplies-short leg
cast-plaster-adult(11+ years)
Q4038-cast supplies-short leg
cast-fiberglass-adult
Q4039-cast supplies-short leg-plaster-pediatric
Q4040-cast supplies-short leg
cast-fiberglass-pediatric
This includes all rolls of plaster or fiberglass
and padding per cast.
Scott Schroeder, DPM
Another Fourth Answer:
A few years ago, Medicare (in their wisdom?)
developed a series of 52 cast supply codes, to
replace the 2 that had been used (including
A4590). For Medicare, each of these Q codes
was specific for a type of cast and age of the
patient. Scott is quite correct
I think Medicare thought everyone else would think
this was a great idea.... but no one else has
followed. A recent Federal Register would
seem to imply that Medicare will be moving away
from their stance (and going back to A4590, etc.?
I doubt it).
Rick Horsman, DPM
Olympia, WA
The Fifth Question:
If we do a partial debridement of a wound in
the office and code a 11040 and then send out for
a wound culture, isn't there something else we are
supposed to be billing for other then the 11040
and the 99213-25? Maybe specimen handling?
We are simply sending out the culture to a
laboratory and awaiting results, but I thought
perhaps we were supposed to be able to charge for
the specimen handling here?
The other question I have is that if this is
during his global post-operative period, I can
still bill that, but I need the modifier 79 right,
or is it considered related because of the
diagnosis 998.32 wound dehiscence?
Really curious,
Kelly
South Portland, ME
The Fifth Answer:
There are several components to the question,
but the very first important parameter is whether
this is a Medicare patient.
If so, any management of complications that does
not require a return to the OR is included in the
global allowance. So, evaluation and
management of a wound dehiscence, culture,
debridement, antibiotics, etc is all included in
the global allowance-- for a Medicare patient.
If these services are performed in the hospital OR
or OSC, they can be billed with a modifier,
reflecting a staged and related procedure.
Otherwise, they're free.
P.S.: Medically necessary and documented
x-rays are billable.
For a non-Medicare patient, you can bill for both
the E/M and debridement. You really should
not bill for the specimen handling (it pays about
$3 anyway). If the problem is wound
dehiscence, you may have problems billing for
these services after a prior surgery. A
diagnosis of cellulitis may be more favorably
considered.
Not every payer will reimburse for these services,
so you might be wise to contact the payer in
question, advise them of the problems the patient
is having, and what you intend to do (and charge
for....), and get some guidance from them
What you DON'T want is to provide a surgical
procedure to a patient, have a wound complication
(which may or may not be considered "the
doctor's fault"), and then hammer the patient
with charges for non-covered post op services.
Rick Horsman, DPM
Another Fifth Answer:
A follow up on this question-
If this is a diabetic or other type wound that
required debridement in the O.R. (I&D, or
debridement) and the doctor knew at that time that
this wound would likely require further
debridement or wound closure then this can be
documented at the time of surgery and further
debridement codes and wound closure codes should
be covered with -58 modifiers (staged
procedure during post-operative period).
This holds true even if all the procedure codes
have global periods. If the physician
performs a debridement in the operating room of a
wound into subcutaneous tissue (11042) which has
no global period and the patient is treated as an
in-patient or out-patient, these visits should be
charged for. If the procedure was an I&D
(10060-10061) or a 11043/11044 then a 10 day
global applies and an office visit or hospital
visit would not be able to be billed.
However, if further debridement was performed at
bedside or in the office then the appropriate
debridement code (11040-11044) with a -58 modifier
should apply and be paid. Please make sure
your physician documents at the time of original
debridement or I&D that further would care
will most likely be needed.
Scott Schroeder, DPM
Crystal-Clear Coding tips are posted on the FootZine
web site on this page:
http://www.footzine.com/FZ_C.htm
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"The great accomplishments of people have
resulted from the transmission of ideas and
enthusiasm." - Thomas J. Watson
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"Real life" has made us slow sometimes
this year, but hasn't diminished our appreciation
for your participation in the FootZine
community. We look forward to your letters,
questions, and ideas.
~ Gayle
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