Memories of the Greek Line Steamship

" Nea Hellas" and "New York"

2009

 

 

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To several generations of Greeks, and other Europeans who were yearning for a new start,

the T.S.S Nea Hellas and later the T.S.S. New York was the ship of dreams.

She was not a glamorous beauty like the famous contemporaries of her day, but for

the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who she carried to the United States, who brought with them

little more than their optimism for life in a new land, she was the bridge to the future.

Built for Anchor Lines in 1922 as the "Tuscania", she was sold to the Greek Line and re-christened in 1939.

As the "Nea Hellas" between 1939 to 1955 she served the Mediterranean Atlantic service.

During World War II, the ship saw wartime service as an Allied troop carrier.

In 1955 she was re-christened as the "New York" and put into the North Atlantic service from Bremen to New York

Her passengers spent many days traveling from their homelands to New York and Halifax.

Their voyages left them with indelible memories.

 

The ship also became popular for visits to Greece and Northern Europe by students and immigrants wishing to visit their loved ones in Europe. This site is dedicated to those seeking to visit their past or learn about this ship that may have been a part of their family's history

 

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John Alexopoulos Toronto Ontario, Canada.

My late mother Stamatiki (Matalas) Alexopoulos, sister Panayiota (Popi) aged 11 )now married and living in Baltimore Maryland and brother Panayioti aged 14 living in Caledon Ontario and I aged 8 came to Canada onboard the Nea Hellas in April 1953. I think our arrival date to Pier 21 in Halifax was April 24, 1953.

From there we went by train to Montreal and then to Toronto where we first lived on Seaton street and then moved to our own home on Castleton Avenue in west end Toronto.

In Canada we joined my late father Nicolas (Nizo) Alexopoulos, my late brothers Andreas and Constantinos (Costa) and Sister Dina who now lives in Baltimore MD.

What I remember of the voyage is sea sickness, big whales, strange food and longing to get to Canada to see my father and siblings. The first meal in Halifax has stuck in my mind of sunnyside eggs with white toast with what must have been margarine. The eggs were runny, the toast soggy and I would not eat it. I wanted some real Greek bread and cheese. The same breakfast was repeated in Montreal with similar results.

As one of the first Greek families from Magoula Sparti Laconia in Toronto, our home in Toronto on Castleton Avenue was like a short stay motel for many of our relatives and neighbours who came to Canada after us. We staged many parties for engagements, weddings and eventually Christenings at that first home in Canada. The old O'Keefe brewery delivery truck would come every Friday or Saturday with the beer for the celebrations. The non Greek Neighbourhood eventually got used to the loud Greek music and having a beer on the porch.

From this first home, we moved to what is now Greek town Toronto. My oldest sister Dina married and moved to Baltimore and later joined by our other sister Popi. Brother Costa moved to Burlington Ontario. Andreas and Peter opened FM Supermarket in the Junction are of Toronto and then a 2nd location at Bloor and Ossington. I went on to high school at Runnymede Collegiate, later to Ryerson, married to a Greek lady from Mystras Sparti.

Today, we live in East York (Toronto), have two daughters with 4 fun loving grandchildren. The first trip on the Nea Hellas was 56 years ago. A life time ago. john@dibainternational.com www.magoula.com

David Helfrich Downington. PA

My father, Harold W. Helfrich, Jr. remembered vividly his voyage on the Nea Hellas. It was during WWII, and he was on his way to India with the U.S. Army Air Corps. I remember him telling me about a submarine attack and about the troops playing lots of table tennis and playing hand after hand of pinochle on the voyage. He told me that at one point a German submarine was spotted, and the American vessels appeared to have it pinned down. He and pretty much everyone on board the Nea Hellas ran to one side of the ship to watch what was happening as the ships buzzed back and forth dropping depth charges. As they were watched, apparently the sub was sunk, and they were safe to continue on to India . I do know that he enjoyed his time on the Nea Hellas very much. He loved ships and the sea and would have joined the Navy if he could have. Unfortunately his eyesight was not good enough. I guess it was good enough for the Army though! The ship obviously made an impression on him. I thought you might be interested to read the attached article which appeared in a 1991 issue of the CBIVA Soundoff, a publication for veterans who served in the China-Burma-India theater during WWII. The CBIVA was dissolved in 2005

 

 

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Vicky "Vasiliki" Zoe Theofanatos, Montreal

I traveled with my parents Constantine & Pauline-Olga, June of 1953 Piraeus Greece to Halifax and the by train to Montreal Quebec, Canada where we settled. I remember my parents telling me how they could only afford 3rd class and apparently there were many grouped in a section of the ship. (Please let me know if you have heard of similar stories). I am not sure is I was one of the few babies on board, my parents told me how most of the young adults travelling would look after me and basically I was spoiled with lots of attention from all in the group of passengers. I remember how my mom was telling me how she felt sick most of the time but she was a frail person to begin with. There was a story where in a storm I fell under a table (I was only a year and a half). Then because I was good looking baby (so they said) people would give me the evil eye and there was an older lady that would do the prayer to lift the evil eye (if you are Greek you would know what that means). Today that I am writing to you it is December 24 2008 and for some reason at work I decided to look up Nea Hellas Ship and your site came up. I do have an original post card which I have placed with most old pictures and memories from my parents. There is also a picture of my mom & myself being held by one of the passengers. (2 photos attached the only baby in the picture)(My parents are both gone now). I also found a booklet where my dad kept details of his payments towards the tickets to sail. I think it must have taken him over a year to pay them off. My dad was the last one to leave us and as something everlasting we entered his name "CONSTANTINE THEOFANATOS & FAMILY" at the Pier 21 museum in Halifax. I guess as we get older we become sentimental that way and look for things that link us to our past and history. Thanks for your memories.

 

Baby Vicky with her family on board the 'Nea Hellas' in 1953

 

Muriel Dawes (Mc Gregor) Vancouver Canada

I left for Canada on April the 3rd 1945 from Perth to Glasgow . Overnight stay then by blackend out van to Clyde Bank where we boarded a Greek troop ship, the Nea Hellas, borrowed by the Canadian government to bring over returning troops ,war brides and family. I became seasick before leaving port and was seasick for the entire trip. The entire trip was very rough Soldiers lined the deck the same color as the ocean (green).The ship zigzaged the whole way because of u-boats. While on the trip they received word that Roosevelt had died. Arrived at Halifax Apr 27th and boarded a C.N.R train for Vancouver,B.C. Got into Vancouver May 4th to live with my mother who had arrived 2 years earlier .Was to start work on the monday but it turned out to be V.E. day.

Steve Bigfork, Montana, USA

In August 1958, returning from my first trip to Europe, I traveled with a group of fellow high-school students aboard the TSS New York from Le Havre, via Southampton, Cherbourg and Cobh, to New York. I shared a "cabin" with three other teenagers: It seemed to be about 15 feet forward of the starboard screw. Our quarters were below the ship's water line. The outer bulkhead was curved, and sloped inward from top to bottom. It had a "porthole," but the cover was steel rather than glass. I had an upper bunk, (fortunately) inboard from the ship's hull. On the high seas we encountered a hurricane, and we were on the ocean for 10 1/2 days before our (late) arrival in New York Harbor! While en route home, we did have our meals in the dining room, but, due to the storm, the round table at which we were seated had rails around its edge, to prevent the china and cutlery from sliding off onto the floor! (At least, we didn't have to wear seatbelts...!) I've traveled to Europe several times since then, but I'll never forget my first trip, FIFTY years ago!! By the way, our east-bound voyage was also on the Greek Line, on the QSS Arcadia. It was a bit larger than the TSS-NY, and it was only 5 - 6 days, more or less. We departed from Montreal, down the St. Lawrence River, to Cobh, Cherbourg, and finally to Southampton, where we dis-embarked. I''m not now planning any further trips to Europe, but I'll always remember my first one!!!

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Alan Bridgeman Santa Barbara, CA

 In 1957 at the age of 7 years old, I immigrated to the United States along with my father, mother and older sister. We sailed across the North Atlantic on board the T. S. S. New York. We left South Hampton harbor on Monday, November 4th, 1958 and stopped in Ireland to pick up passengers. 9 days later we arrived in New York harbor. One of the first things we saw was (what we were told, but never proven at the time ) the sister ship to ours sunken in the harbor, the tail of the ship was still sticking out of the water. We were all very scared at the thought of the same happening to our ship. One interesting thing that happened as we left the harbor was the crew started to lace sheets of canvas into the deck openings. None of the passenger could figure out why they were doing this, until we woke up the next day. The water was very rough, so rough that the canvas was meant to stop passengers from being washed over board. The rest of the trip was very rough, most of the passengers were sea sick. We only went to the dining hall once on the first night, we could not stand the smell of the food after that. My dad would carry us up to the deck and we would spend the whole day under a blanket in the cold wind and ocean spray. Our cabin was located on the bottom deck, we had 4 bunk beds and one sink in the cabin. The port hole was sealed shut, we don't know why, except we thought we must have been below the water level. We could constantly hear the whine of the engines from our cabin, Our bath room, which we shared with the other passengers, was located down the passage way. I can still remember having to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. My dad took me down the hall, only to find vomit sliding back and forth across the bath room floor as the ship rolled from side to side. Upon seeing and smelling this, we puked our heads off. The weather, finally cleared up about one day out of New York and we all were able to eat in the dining hall. I was also able to explore the ship a little with some of the other kids. We found that if you sit on one side of the dance floor, you could slide across to the other side as the ship rolled to the other side. Good fun!!

We finally arrived in New York and immediately made arrangements to fly on TWA to Los Angeles. We have all lived in Santa Barbara, California, ever since. When you find paradise, you don't leave it!

The Bridgeman Family 51 years ago

L to R, Ronald, Anne, Alan and Rachel

 

 

Susan Colledge Yorkshire

My father Frank Hall, traveled on the troopship Nea Hellas as part of a convoy, from Greenock, via Cape Town, to North Africa In February 1942. He was a radio operator in the RAF. The conditions of board were rough, and it was a dangerous trip. During the voyage there was a fire, and while sailing up the Suez Canal the ship was involved in a collision with another ship. This happened at night, and initially the men thought they had been torpedoed by the Germans.

 

Maureen Hegarty Derry, Northern Ireland

"I came across your website tonight while looking for someone. I would like to add my memories of my trip on the TSS New York. When I was a young girl I was a member of a children's choir from Derry, Ireland "The Little Gaelic Singers" and in the year 1958 we toured America from the end of January until mid May. We returned home to Ireland on 10th May 1958 and I am sending a photograph, which was taken of me being presented with a tin of sweets which I won in a Fancy Dress competition while on board the New York. As you can see I was dressed as a Geisha Girl - my dressing gown back to front!!

 

 

I still remember two boys we met then ---Wilfred Wagner and Manfred Petersen...I often wondered about them...where are they now? They often talked in German in our presence and we couldn't understand them so we started to say our prayers in Gaelic to pretend we were having a conversation for we spoke little gaelic in every day life. I remember we were all crying (24 children in the choir and 4 adults) as we left.

My dancing group toured the USA for three and a half months. We arrived in New York on the HMS Carinthia (Cunard line I believe) at the end of January 1958 and left for our return the 10th May on the TSS New York. During the tour we were in Hollywood and met Bing Crosby and Rosemary Clooney and actually sang for them.

I am sending a photograph which was taken at that visit. In the front you will see Bing Crosby with his pipe and beside him Rosemary Clooney. On the front left is our musical director, James McCafferty. I am right at the top. Not a great quality photo but great memories.

 

 

 

The picture leaving New York harbour was taken by our soloist, Baritone, Neal Carlin .(he was into photography then), He was my singing coach and also from Derry. I have also sent a picture of me as I am now!! The years fly........! Yours sincerely, Maureen Hegarty"

 

 

José Manuel Díaz de Terán Rodríguez

"Hola. Envío el mensaje con copia porque ya intenté enviarlo a la dirección que me has pasado y me respondió el sistema que era desconocida

Las fotografías corresponden a un grupo integrado por varias personas de las que solamente recuerdo a mis padres y a mi mismo, que soy el pequeño. El resto del grupo no se quienes son aunque pienso que deben ser emigrantes griegos.

 

 

La travesía para nosotros comenzó en Lisboa en una fecha indeterminada, pero anterior a la de las fotos que fueron el día 20 de Diciembre de 1947.

También he encontrado un programa de actividades del año 1950 que si quiere lo puedo escanear y enviártelo.

 

Te voy a hacer una pequeña historia de mi familia ya que estoy encantado de haber encontrado un nuevo amigo griego. Mis padres y yo salimos de España en el año 1947 y embarcamos en Lisboa en dirección a Nueva York para poder pasar luego a Cuba ya que allí vivía mi abuelo materno. Allí vivimos hasta que falleció y regresamos a España. Pero el motivo de mi alegría al haber encontrado un amigo griego, es que en mi ascendencia familiar por rama materna tengo unos ascendientes griegos, naturales de Vitylos (hoy Oitilos), que salieron de Grecia en el año 1650 aproximadamente huyendo del imperio otomano y se establecieron en Corcega viviendo en Cargese hasta que los corsos se declararon independientes de Genova y pelearon con los greco corsos que no los habian ayudado contra los genoveses. Después de salir de Corcega algunos se asentaron en Tunez y otros en Menorca, que por esas fechas estaba bajo el poder de Inglaterra. En Menorca uno de mis Estefanopoli contrajo matrimonio con una menorquina y al poco tiempo embarcaron junto a otros 1400 emigrantes como colonos a la Florida, por entonces tambien inglesa, para trabajar a cambio de tierras que nunca les fueron entregadas en Nueva Esmirna. Allí murieron muchos de ellos y los que quedaron escaparon a San Agustín, donde una hija de Nicolás Estefanopoli (Stefanopoulos creo que sería el apellido original), contrajo matrimonio con un teniente de Infanteria que estaba allí destinado. Más tarde, cuando la Florida fue vendida a USA, pasaron a La Habana y de allí una bisabuela mi pasó a España. Esa es la historia de mi rama griega contada a grandes rasgos.

Tengo que buscar las fotofgrafías que te he mandado para escanearlas con mayor definición y mandarte también el programa de actividades del Nea Hellas de 1950 que he comprado para tener otro recuerdo más de mi niñez. Se me olvidaba decirte que mis griegos eran de Laconia, cerquita de Esparta, y que posiblemente por eso mis simpatías hacia la historia de Esparta desde niño haya sido mayor que hacia las otras ciudades griegas y siempre me he sentido un poco espartano.

Un muy fuerte abrazo. Un saludo"

 

 

Tony Saroli Montreal, Canada

"Hello, my name is Antonio Saroli and at the age of 9 years old I left Rome, Italy by train for Naples, where with my family we were taking the Nea Hellas which was to take us to Halifax and eventually our destination, Montreal. My father Vincenzo Ottavio was 54 years old, my mother Anna was 50 years old and my three sisters were 21, 18, and 15. None of us spoke any English or French and we were joining our brother who had called us over. He had gone to live in Montreal in 1952 to visit family. I have a few memories of ship life.

On Tuesday April 14, 1953...We set sail from Naples directly for Halifax , Nova Scotia . The trip to Canada lasted 10 days...My eldest sister who remained in Rome came by car to see us off and in my mind's eye I can still see my sister at the wharf waving her white handkerchief as the ship was sailing away in the distance. On the ship with us were two of my female second cousins who were in their 20's and were traveling alone. They were very beautiful girls and the boys on board were paying them undue attention. There were some things of note on the trip overseas....First was a glimpse of the Rock of Gibraltar. When you saw this you knew that you were leaving the Mediterranean and were now in the Atlantic Ocean . My sister Elena didn't want to go on and she begged the ship's captain to turn the ship around. Elena was 21 years old and was very upset to leave behind Domenico who was the love of her life. My other sister Gina was 18 years old and had also left her boyfriend behind. My third sister Elvira was 15 years old and she didn't have a boyfriend. On ship we had a small room all to ourselves with bunk beds that were folded up/down as needed. My mother and my sisters were seasick and spent nearly all the trip in their room. I ventured out and brought them fruit. The first thing we had to do when we were out in the high seas was an evacuation drill. Everyone had to go on board to put on their life vests. It was a riot to see the people coming out of their cabins. Some were so sea sick that they looked like they were drunk and couldn't stand up straight. I thought that it was hilarious. The next thing I saw were those whales that they depict in the bible story of Jonah and the whale. I don't know what type of whales they were but they had big heads. They and the dolphins came close to the ship to get the refuse food that was thrown overboard. During the 10 day trip a man died on board and since they didn't have refrigeration in those days he was quickly buried at sea. There was a funeral for him and he was wrapped up in a white sheet. He basically looked like a mummy. The priest said some prayers and then he was thrown overboard. This made quite an impression on a young 9 year old boy!

 

burial at sea aboard the Nea Hellas

 

Also I had brought on board a favourite soccer ball. The young men on the boat used to play soccer with me. One guy accidentally kicked it overboard so I made them all pay me for the loss of my ball (I was quite a cheeky boy). The rest of the trip was uneventful and then one day I heard people saying we had arrived in Canada"

 

Alan Pridmore UK

"HI Please I found a payslip of my father-in-law who served on the SS Nea Hellas during the war. The time was from the 6/12/1943 to 22/3/1944. His name was Harold Barrett from Swansea, I believe that he was a steward on board. Sadly Harold passed away 17 years ago, I wonder if there is anyone who visits this site that sailed with Harold? If so, do they have any memories of him, as he did not speak a lot about his wartime experiences. Hope you find this interesting."

 

 

Ian UK

"Thank you so much for this website! Since a small boy I have treasured my father's flying logbooks from 1943/46 in the RAF. He died sadly from a brain hemorrhage when I was but 3, but not without somehow imparting his passion for flight. As was common for many in the RAF much of his training was in Africa. The back of these logbooks contain a diary of locations, and in part through my work in flight simulation and in part through the arrival of Google earth I recently realised I could now retrace what was otherwise mystery - perhaps even replicate his flight instruction in a virtual version of his Harvard aircraft! Amidst the many locations lies "H.M.T B17 Nea Hellas 3 may 1944 - 8 June 1944" The prior entry is Manchester and the following Bulawayo. Being just a short flight today it did not occur to me at all that I was looking at a voyage- I was hunting for a month's stay at some airfield somewhere called Nea Hellas! Thanks to your site - typed into Google... another piece in the jigsaw was revealed. I know it is a far stretch but small world and all that but....... If anyone reading this also made that trip or spent time at ITW Bulawayo; SFTS, Thornhill S.Rodesia; ETFS Guinea Fowl ( I don't yet know what that is); or IFTC Westlake Capetown I'd love to hear. My father's name was Derry Meredith. ian@ianmeredith.com"

Nea Hellas (HR 190) during WWII

 

  

 

 

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The Nea Hellas at War

 

A great contribution to the history of this ship, which transported

over 300,000 Allied troops during WW II.

 

CLICK HERE TO READ FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS OF THOSE WHO WERE TRANSPORTED ON THE NEA HELLAS IN WORLD WAR TWO

 

 

 

 

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Two photo memories from a 1948 journey from Dave's family archives.

Dave is a talented photo enthusiast from Pennsylvania whose photo collection can be seen on Flicker.

The woman on the dock is Celestia, his grandmother. Thanks for the great photos from your family's past!

 

 

 

 

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