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2001- 2007 update Hamilton Rifle Web Page . Do you have a good Hamilton rifle story E-Mail Jim using the address at the bottom of the page


1.Subject:Found rifle in bushes:

Jim,Thanks for putting up your website. A friend of mine found a 27 model in some bushes covered in mud. She told me she found a "BB Gun" I quickly realized it wasn't a bb gun but still it was the oddest-looking .22 I?ve ever seen. Nonetheless, I bought it for $10 and, thanks to your website, I now know a bit more about this curious little item.

Thanks again,Wayne

2.Subject:Garage Sale Special

I really appreciate your website concerning the Hamilton rifle. Last weekend I picked up a model #27 at a garage sale for $2.50. In Santa Clara Ca. I?m not a gun person, but I like old stuff and couldn't resist it. It is in pretty good shape. Knowing a bit about its history makes it even more interesting.
Sincerely,Will S.

3.Subject:Need Model 27 Parts

Jim,Great web page I have the #27 rifle do you know where I can get a picture breakdown and if there is any place to get parts. Thanks for any info you can give me.

Bill M.

"REPLY"
Hi Bill,Sorry,no Model 27 parts available anywhere, matter of fact there hasn't been any Hamilton Rifle parts available for the past 50 years.

Jim

4.Subject:Got my Model 27in the 50's

Jim,Thank you for putting this info out about the Hamilton Rifles. I was given a Model 27 by the father of one of my friends back in the early ?50s; he wasn't into guns and didn't want it laying around the house. Other than that I don't know the history of this particular gun. He cautioned me not to try and shoot it because he didn't know how safe it was, so being an adventurous youth I decided to put a 22 short in it and shoot it. I stood behind a large tree and reached around with gun in hand and shot at an empty 55 gal. Drum, the hole it made was not a nice round hole but an irregular shaped hole. I surmised that the bullet must have been tumbling in flight to make a hole like that. I never did shoot it after that and it's been in my gun cabinet nearly 50 years now.I've always been curious about this little 22 cal rifle and I appreciate the info you have made available.
Thanks, Frank

5.Subject: Model 51

I have a Hamilton model 51. It says small, long, and long rifle. It shoots very nice. But the barrel appears to be braised where it should screw in. Is that something original, or something someone has done. I am looking for front and rear sights for this gun, can you help me find sights or tell me anything else about this gun. Thanks, Jeff

"REPLY"

Hi Jeff,The Model 51 is the first model to shoot long rifle cartridge. The original barrels are solid steel and threaded into the frame. If your barrel is braised into the frame it has been modify. Another thing to consider, the rifle being very old and the barrel has never been taken apart probably fused itself to the frame. That?s why you cannot take it apart. I would just leave it be.

Sorry,there are no parts for this Model or any other Hamilton Rifle. I can only recommend that you go to a machine shop and see if they will make the parts for you.

Jim

6.Subject: Model 23,yard sale special

Jim,It was great to find your web page. We just bought my son a Hamilton .22Cal model #23 at a yard sale for $20. I had never heard of Hamilton rifles before. I bought it because my mother's maiden name is Hamilton and it seemed like a good deal at the time. Before I visited your Web Site I had no idea of its age or worth. Now it seems like a great deal. I live in Ohio and I am going to be on the lookout for parts and other and guns.

I have one question though. It does not have the original stock. I realize this will probably seriously affect the value. Do you have any ideas if a stock could be purchased? Or what the value would be without the stock?

Thanks, Jennifer

"REPLY"

Jennifer,The value of your sons Model 23 would be worth any where from $100.00 to $175.00. Provide the rest of the gun is in good shape.Sorry to say; No one has or sells parts for your M-23. But if I do hear of anyone selling parts I'll let you know.

Jim

7.Subject: Alaskan Model 27 Posted: Jan.1,02

THANK YOU; for your web page it was a joy to find. You said that you wanted stories so I will share mine. For some time I have been wondering about a gun I received from my grandfather.

When I was in 3rd grade (16 years ago) my family moved to the bush in Alaska, for some reason my grandpa let me take his model 27 with me. I have successfully hunted grouse with it.On the stock he burned in a name "Old Hark from the Grave" I don't know why he chose the name or if it has other meanings. Unfortunately, I can't ask him. Also I remember him telling me that he won it in a Cracker Jack box. Can you tell me if there is any truth to it?Or am I remembering the story wrong?

Again thank you for the informative web page and for your time in reading this.
Erik E.

"REPLY"

Hi Erik,
I believe your Grandfather was kidding around with you, when he told you he won it in a Cracker Jack Box. Cracker Jack box?s never advertised Boys Rifles or gave then out as prizes. Your Grandfather probably told you that because the rifle is small and at one time Cracker Jack boxes contained little rifle charms. Thank you for your Hamilton Rifle story.

Happy New Year

Jim

8.Subject:Good Memory Posted:Feb.24,02

Sir: Yesterday I was having a conversation with my Uncle Charlie, age 92. He was talking about how he earned money by selling seeds as a boy and ordered a .22 rifle through the mail with the $8 or so he saved. I thought that was quite interesting!! He went on to describe how the gun came in 2 pieces in a small box about 14" in length. He remembers the year at about 1920 or so. Unfortunately, the barrel was tossed away many years ago but he thinks he still has the stock. He'll be very happy and surprised to hear about your great site and he'll have fun reading all the history I found here.

Thanks

Harry R, MA

9.Subject: Special time with son, Posted:April 24,02

I have my dad?s model 27. Many years ago before my dad passed away he had this little Hamilton 27 re blued and a new firing pin manufactured. The barrel is brass. I still shoot this little rifle using CB rather than shorts. It performs very well for what it is. My son Brycen, now 7 years old also shoots this rifle under my close supervision. It is a special time for both of us, I can reminisce on my childhood and see his unfolding.

Al Allen

10.Subject: A Model 27 pistol? Posted:June 11,02

Jim, Your rifle info was very helpful. I just bought a Hamilton Model 27 22 cal. pistol. I bought it because it was old and that?s the only reason. Later, I found out it?s a Model 27 rifle that?s been converted to a pistol. Its not in good shape but I like it.

Thanks for your help!

Dave Bullard
Mesa, AZ.

11. Subject: Hamilton Japanese 027,Posted:July 6,02

Just wanted to drop a note and say thanks for your information on the Hamilton rifles. I was just given this rifle from a relative and had never seen one and identified it as the Japanese 027 thanks to your well written website.

I have found no other information on the web regarding these rifles. The rifle will definately find a special place in the gun safe.

Thanks again,

Michael Adams

12. Subject: Found Model 11 in a wall, Posted:July 19,02

Hi Jim

I bought a Model 11 from an acquaintance who got it from a friend who found it in a wall of a building being torn down in Chicago. Nether of us had any idea of its value but agreed on a fair price. After reading about the rifle on your web page. I realized I got a good deal. I would say it is in fair to good condition. The shiny (chrome?) finish is mostly gone and the stock had a piece chipped out that was crudely glued back in place. The rear sight is broken off. Still shoots and looks good. You can read ? The Hamilton Rifle Co. Plymouth Mich." in the stock.

Thanks again
Mike

13.Subject: Minnesota Farm Memory?s ; Posted:July 27, 2002

Thank you; very much for the Model 027 rifle information. When I was about 7 years old I was given a Model 027. It had a broken firing pin, as a some what innovative kid on a Minnesota farm I made a firing pin out of a nail I used the rifle for five or six years shooting small game. In the 1930's a rabbit or a setting duck or pheasant was some time all we had to eat.

Again thank you for the bit of history.

Erv Lindquist Sr.

14.Subject:Small Indiana Grocery Store Promotion Item,Posted:Oct.8,02

Dear Sir, I really would like to thank you for your hard work on finding information about the Hamilton rifles. I have also looked everywhere but nothing. A good friend told me that he found your web site on these rifles so I checked it out. You see, I am an auctioneer and Oct. 18th 02 I?m selling a very nice Model 27 at auction. The women I am selling it for said that her great grandpa owned an ran a small grocery in a small town called Mitchel IN. and the rifle was a promotional item for selling so much product. It makes sense to me I guess. No one else has heard of it or anything, they think I am crazy when I tell the story, but perhaps it could be true.

Again thank you.

Kyle Fisher

"REPLY"

Hi Kyle

I can honestly say that the women?s story is true. In my web page I only gave a couple of examples on how they used the Hamilton rifles for promotions.

Jim

15. Thank You, Model 027, Posted: Nov.5, 02

I just wanted to say thanks for your time and information. I came into a Model 027 an early model with a brass barrel. And could not fine any information in any gun books ETC. Then I came across your web site and found the information I was looking for.

Thanks again

Don Anderson in Marion, Oregon, outside Salem

16.Found Model 027 in old building Posted:Jan.10,03

It was 1955 in down town Columbus Ohio, my father while cleaning out this old building before it was to be torn down, found a Model 027 in perfect condition. We never could find any thing about the gun but we shot it 5 or 6 times. Before he passed away in 1977 he told me to get the gun and save it for my son. In 1978 or 79 I had the gun cleaned and re-blued. Three years ago when my son turned 30,I gave him the gun.

Thanks to our wonderful electric machine called a computer and people like you a 50-year mystery is solved.

I have been offered as much as $500.00 for the little gun but to my son and me it?s priceless.

Ray Lockhart

17.Subject: What is it? Posted: JAN.24,03

About ten years ago I found this Hamilton rifle in a lumberyard in Perth Amboy, New Jersey, which is in central New Jersey. The town of Perth Amboy is very old; as a matter of fact at one time it used to be the capital of New Jersey.

I cannot fine this rifle in your web page, can you look at the attached photos and furnish me some info.

Thanks,

Orlando, NEW Jersey

Orlando, You have a Model 27 rifle that was converted to a pistol.

Jim

18.Subject: Guess what I found? Posted:JAN.24,03

Hey Jim,


I was rummaging around in my grandparents basement this morning Looking for an old Japanese 99 rifle that my grand father brought back from the war when I happened upon a Hamilton no.51. It has the flat stock and although it has a few dings and a little surface rust, it cleaned up pretty nicely. It has a blade front sight and a rear peep sight but there seems to be a pad just ahead of the action for another sight.

Thanks for a great website.

Mark V., Grand Haven, Michigan

19. Subject: Model 51 Cereal box & bolt story. Posted: Jan.31,03

The story when I was like 11 (1979) I was visiting my brothers current girlfriend and her mother was going to throw away this old broken gun. I beg to have it and won the argument. I?ve had it ever since. With age, mine not the gun I tried to have the firing pin repaired but was told it would cost more than the guns value to forge a bolt. An estimate of around $160 back in 1997 I think.

Reading your page I was told during my research that it was what was called a cereal box gun. Meaning if you collected enough box tops and $ they would mail you one. Can you imagine cheerios today giving away guns????

Larry .........Easton, Md.

20. Subject: Selling Rosebud salve. Posted: Feb.17,03

Sure was great to find your web site. I have been trying to get some information on a Model 51, which I own and found it on your site. I have one that my grandfather gave to me in 1948. He got the gun in 1938 selling Rosebud salve around the neighborhood where he lived. He has passed away now but I have the gun to remember him by. It is in very good condition.

Thanks for the information.

LeBron Duffey? Lakeland, Florida

21 Subject:Can't Fool Dad, Posted:April 14,03

Hi, I enjoyed your site on the Hamilton emencly. About 15 years ago I bid one in just to see what it was. After looking it over I knew I had a jewell. It is a 27 and in very good condition for what it is. My son told me break it into and scrap it. ha I have known the history on it for a couple of years, but you shed more info on it.

Thanks a Million.

Roy

22.Subject:I had fun with my Grandfather.Posted:April 24,03


I saw your web page on Hamilton Rifles and found it very interesting. I have a Hamilton model 7 rifle that belonged to my grandpa. He bought it new when he was a young man and gave it to me over 50 years ago. When I was a young boy he and I used to go to the dump and shoot rats with it. The rifle is in very good condition for its age and we have not fired it in over 35 - 40 years. I just wanted to let you know there is still one around and still in the original family.

Thank you, Jim

23 Subject: Memories of My Iowa farm and Model 27 Posted:May 9, 2003

Jim,

I was so pleased to find your web pages. I have searched for several years for information on my rifle.

I was born and raised on a farm in Iowa. In l930, our house burnt leaving us with nothing but the clothes on our backs. A couple of Dad's friends set up a trailer used for duck hunting for us to live in while Dad built a house. It was hard timers we had no groceries and little money. Dad ordered the Model 27 rifle from Montgomery Wards; the total cost was $4.40. I used it to furnish meat for the table, rabbits and squirrels were plentiful and we ate a lot of them. One morning while running my trap line, an opossum I thought I had killed got up and` took off. I hit him on the head with the rifle but end of the rifle and split the stock. I took it to a friend who worked in his dad's machine shop and ask him to fix it. I went back in a couple days and he brought the rifle out with a beautiful walnut stock on it. He said the old stock was to short for you so I made it six inches longer. A man in the shop said "look at that, a $3.00 rifle with a $l0.00 stock." With a trembling voice I said how much do I owe you? He said seventy five cents. That is what I got out of the opossum hide. : I used the rifle a lot until I went in the army in 1942. It was not used until my grandson used it a short time on his trap line, before he went into the Marines in l988. It is very accurate and in good condition. It is to go to my grandson and on down the family line. It is not to be sold or used.

Carroll J. White

Ottumwa, Iowa

24. Subject: Yard Sale Surprise, Posted: May 14, 2003

Sir:

Two months ago at a yard sale, I asked the gentleman if he had any rifles or shotguns, for sale. He said he had two 22 single shot rifles. He took me into the barn type building and from the rafters; he brought down an early Stevens Favorite and a Hamilton Model 43. I had never heard of a Hamilton, and to me it looked like a toy, I had no interest. I bought the Stevens. I came across your Web Site, and got a great education, about the Hamilton Rifle. I said to myself, you need that gun! Two weeks ago I went back and bought it. The rifle cleaned up to 90%.It is a great conversation piece. Nobody has heard of it before. This week I bought a complete receiver-frame, trigger and hammer, from eBay. It is for a Model 27.So I will be looking for any and all parts to complete a this rifle.

I want to thank you for giving me the interest in the Hamilton Rifle.

Thanks again:

Bob Ryder, Nokomis, Florida

25. Subject: Indian Chief gave me my first .22 Rifle, Posted: May 14, 2003

Hi Jim,

When I was 9 years old that?s about 66 years ago I was given my first .22 it was a Model 27. An old Indian gentleman, Chief Bender lived in this small town where I was raised and I guess took a liking to me. I recently took the rifle to a gunsmith friend and he put back in firing shape. As yet I haven't had the intestinal fortitude to fire it. My friend said it would be ok but I would rather have it sit in my gun safe for now.

I'm a native Californian, raised in a small town, Saticoy, located in Ventura County, Ca.

Thanks for the history on the Hamilton.

Don Backe

26.Subject: Found Model 27 cleaning old house. Posted: May 20, 2003

I really appreciate this site. I received my Model 27 while working in Baltimore. I stayed in a house there that belonged to one of the guys that worked for me. I was downstairs checking the furnace filter and happened to look up and saw what I thought was a BB gun in the floor joists. I took it down and found it to be a small cat rifle. (WVa term) I told the guy I found a gun in the house and he said you can have it. He was already letting me stay in the house because I was cleaning it up for sale. I told him I didn't want people at work to think I was taking advantage of him so I gave him $50 for it. He was happy and so was I.

I had looked everywhere for information on it and found none. Gun stores just said you get them when you buy feed, so I guess they were right. You made my day I have been looking for 3 years for information. I even called a gun show guy in Michigan and he said I never heard of them but I will buy it from you. Mine shows signs of use but is in very good condition. Thank you for your website you have answered a puzzle for me but now I have one more to figure out I have what looks like a toy pistol that looks like a 32 cal single shot. I am 49 now and I was with my father when he found it in the mud while we where trout fishing when I was 10 years old.

Dane in WVa

27.Subject: Sell garden seeds and you can have a Model 51. Posted: May 22, 2003

Jim

Thank you for your web site on Hamilton rifles. I have been in love with them for years, ever since I found a premium catalog shown a "True Rifle" that you could win for selling 24 packages of garden seeds and $1.95. I eventually found one of the rifles (a model 51) and a package of the "Garden Spot Seeds" that you had to sell. I have them all mounted together just over my desk. I also have models 37 and 15.

Thank you so much.

Paul Sliger, Antiques@LakeCityTN

28. Subject: Model 27 Reminiscing, Posted: July 9, 03

Jim Thanks for a great website. When I was 5 years old (1940), I discovered my fathers Model 27 and of course was very curious and full of questions. The curiosity was perhaps heightened by the gun?s small "boy size" compared to the hex barrel 22 special rifle that my father normally used. I don?t remember if my father told me when he got the gun, but I believe it was probably in the mid 1920s to mid 1930s. I do remember him telling me that he ordered it from Montgomery Wards at a cost of around $3.60. This seems to fit fairly close with Carroll J. White?s recollection.

As a teenager, I probably put 15 ? 20 boxes of shells through that little gun, enough to expand the brass lining within the barrel to the point that every shell case had to be pried out with a knife. Like Erv Lindquist, Sr., I became quite adept at making firing pins out of large nails. The little gun is now retired, as is its owner.

Thanks again! D.J.Glenn

29. Subject: Bicycle Rifle? Posted: July 9, 03

I recently attended a public auction where a HAMILTON Model 27 rifle was brought up for sale and was announced as a bicycle rifle. I didn't know what the rifle was but bought the rifle. The gun is in very good condition w/ 80% of the original finish and all original parts. Can you tell me why this gun is called a bicycle gun?

Dave, Sioux Falls, South Dakota

Reply,

In the late 1800?s the name Bicycle rifle was given to the small .22cal rifles with barrel lengths of 16? 18? and 20? inches long. Because Boy?s mounted there rifles on the bike cross bar. The Sevens arm and tool company made a canvas rifle case costing $1.90 that mounted and hung from the boys bike cross bar. In the early 1900?s Boy?s rifle became the most common name for the small rifles

30.Subject: Dad?s Pet ,Posted Aug. 13,03

I just read and printed out your article on the Web on the Hamilton Rifle. I have one!

I am 75. My Dad died in 1938 when I was 10 years old. He was a hunter and had a Hamilton .22, model 27. We used to shoot it out at our summer cottage at White Lake in Oakland County, Michigan. I grew up in Detroit.

He told me that it was mine and it stayed at my mother's house until she died in 1977. We took it to our cabin up north at Harrison, MI but never used it. When we sold the cabin in 1991 we brought it home.

I came across it the other day when I was re-arranging our downstairs family room. I decided to look it up on the Web to see what I could learn. And to my surprise, I learned that it was made in Plymouth, MI. We are the next suburb southeast of Plymouth. I have been in their museum and saw the Daisy display but didn't give it any thought connecting it to the .22. I plan to re-visit the museum and see what is there and talk to the people that run it. I won't take my .22 - I may have a problem carrying a gun into a public place these days.

I noticed my name is scratched in the wood on the end of the stock. It is done too well to have been put there by me so my Dad must have done it. I am working on a good way to display it in my home. I also have the bugle my step-father used as a bugler in WW I. I plan to hang that somewhere, also.

Thank you for the good story and the history of the Hamilton Rifle. I shared it with my sister. I was my Dad's "pet" and that is why I am the one with the rifle!

Sincerely, Doris, Westland, MI

31. Subject: Found No 27 behind chest, Posted Aug. 25, 03

Thank you very much for your very informative web-site. We found our Hamilton No, 27 behind a chest in a storage shed when we bought our house in 1994. It is a beautiful little rifle. The stock is broken where it is screwed to the metal frame. Other than that, it is in beautiful condition. We have had it hanging on the wall and a visitor today told us what it was. Thanks for the information you gave us about the model. We plan on keeping it a while.

Terri

P.S. After I sent you the first email, my husband cleaned and fired the rifle. He was able to hit a can at 75 yards on his first try. What fun!

32. Subject: Model 27 in closet for 50 years; Posted Sept 25, 03

Hello, I was so happy to find your site; my father had called and asked me to search on the net to see if I could find any information on a rifle that has been sitting in the closet for about 50 years. It's the model 27 and I was able to give him the information you had listed.

Thank you for such a great page!

Lisa Current,Newburgh Indiana


33. Subject: Willed Model 7; Posted Dec.10,03

I was willed a Model 7 Hamilton Rifle by my wife's aunts. This rifle has been in the family-- probably since it was new. It appears to have been shot only a few times and is in excellent shape. My aunt told me it was a favorite with women here in the mountains of Western North Carolina. They lived a few miles west of Franklin. It fires only .22 shorts.

Thanks for the website. I have been trying for years to find out something about this neat little rifle.

Thanks,

Bob Scott

34. Subject: Model 27 Family History; Posted: Dec.10,03

Thank you so much for the web page info. I've been searching for twenty-five years for the history of my rifles production. Mine was my Great Grandfathers, then my Grandfathers gave it to me when I was eight. I'm sixty-one now. So, I've had it for fifty-three years. Great Grand-dad lived in New York City and I don't know when or where he obtained the rifle. Grand-dad moved to North Carolina when he was about twenty-one and brought the rifle with him. I was born there in 1942. I spent most of my childhood on my Uncle's farm in Lincoln County NC. And the rifle got a lot of use. As you stated, the firing pin broke often. We had a gun- smith just a couple miles away that kept mine in repair. I now live in a Louisville KY suburb named Fairdale KY. I've been here twenty-two years and will probably die here. Of course if I win the "Power Ball" Lottery, my new address will be in the outskirts of Paris, France. It was so interesting to see the prices and promotional give-away info. Also the approximate worth of my rifle. About five years ago, I talked to a guy in PA (Via my "Ham" Radio) that had just purchased a model 23 Hamilton at a flea market.

Again, thank you so very much for the web site, photos and info.

Sincerely, Larry C Coppala US Army Ret

35. Subject: Model 27 Back to the Future (1963) Posted:Jan.20, 04

Dear Jim,

Back around 1963 my future brother in law needed gas money for his auto. He offered me his Model 27 from his gun collection for $5.00. He had gas money and I had a rifle that I often wondered why I purchased. I guess I just wanted to help him out. I took the rifle out to a field, put in a 22 short, put an old maple between me and the rifle and pulled the trigger. I still have my hand and the rifle; both are in good shape. If anyone is interested in taking it off my hands they can contact me at jrf.paf2@juno.com.

Thanks for your page.

Jim Franko, New York

36. Subject: Jesse James,Model 027??? Posted: Feb.12, 04

My Father in law found this gun up in the rafters of an old Oklahoma barn that was built back in the early 1900's. It was up between the rafters and the roof. Your web site says that the model 027 was manufactured 1908? The gun we have says it was patented Oct 30 1900-Aug 13, 1907. Were these guns only used by young boys? Or would there have been any use for it by older men? My husbands Grandmother always told a story about feeding Jesse James at their old homestead where this barn was located. So of course, my husband being very young when he heard this story has always thought that the gun could have been hidden by Jesse James. But, I would imagine Jesse James would have had a little more powerful gun than a 22 cal. OH well, makes for a good story.

Alice

Hi Alice

Rifle manufactures did not manufacture their rifles until the rifles designs were patented and they received a patented date from the government which could take a couple of years. After receiving the patented date, them they manufactured the rifle placing the date on the rifles showing other that they own the rifle design and manufacturing rights. The same holds true today that?s why you see patented dates on products. I?m positive your know this.

Older men did use the small rifles for shooting small game like rabbit, squirrels etc. they are pretty accrued little rifles. They were also used for killing hogs. I agree that Jesse James would have not used the little rifle for holding up banks etc.

Jim


37.Subject: Thrill finding your web site. Posted March 21, 04

Jim,

I just found your web site. I have been looking for some time now for information on Hamilton rifles. What a thrill to find this site. I have a model 15 that was my dad?s first rifle. It is in good shape except for the action which is loose. But that is ok. It sat in the gun cabinet next to my first rifle a Marlin 81DL, both of which are antiques much like myself.

Thank you for your web site; it gave me lots of information and enjoyment.

Bill, Blakely Pa.


38 Subjects: Model 27 Coupon Gun? Posted: April 8, 2004

I have been the proud owner of a model 27 for many years now but never knew what I had until I ran across your site. Thanks for putting the information out there. My sons, now 13, asked a few years ago whether the old rifle that I had hung on a wall in our den was "dads hunting rifle", as if I had hung my shoot ?en iron on the wall. We set them straight but it?s come to be a small family joke since then.

Thanks much for finally making the information available on what my gun is. We always called it a "Coupon Gun". That?s what the guy I got it from called it anyway.

Thanks

Scott

39 Subject: My Model 27 is not For Sale. Posted: 5/2/04

Hi Jim,

We really like and appreciate your web site! It is very interesting and was most useful to us. My Husband had a friend at work that had some guns he wished to sell. He apparently had picked them up at local estate auctions in the area. He had no idea what most of them were and just wanted to be rid of them after they had been in a closet for a few years. At the time we had no idea what 2 of them were but liked the looks of them. I had chosen the smallest of them because it just looked neat, and thought it would look good hanging in one of my native rooms.

We took them to a local gun show with us the following day and found out what they were, to our surprise; the one I had chosen was a Hamilton, model 27! It is in very good shape and people wanted to buy it, but needless to say we did not sell.

Here is a photo of it. And thanks once again for your wonderful site! Have a great day!

Curtis & Connie Kunkle

40 Subject: Bought My Model 27 in 1926. Posted : 5/27/04

Jim, Great site - glad you took the time to put it together.

My Grandpa moved from Scotland to Los Angeles in 1923 He was 8 years old. His father bought a piece of property in Elysian Heights and began to build a 2-story house for the family (Himself, no contractors). This land they bought was considered "out in the sticks" and provided a great place to raise chickens, hunt birds and rabbits etc. My Grandpa started with an old Daisy BB gun at 8 years old, but when he turned 12 in 1926, he went down to Enzen Ruckers hardware store on the corner of 5th and Los Angeles St. and bought a new model 27. He would bring home rabbits and birds for his mom to prepare, the family often depending on this for meat.

My Grandpa's dad was an avid hunter, fisherman, etc. He used to comment on how accurate he thought the little .22 was. Grandpa said his dad would pull birds down in flight from quite a distance.

Grandpa gave me the rifle in '97 and I had a local shop look at it - they told me it was in really good condition and that I could use shorts, longs, or long rifles. I've shot it several times and it really is pretty accurate. My Grandpa said his dad knew the firing pin would be a problem with wear, so he always would carry a small cup of vasoline with him and dip the back of the casing in it before loading it in the gun. He kept vasoline on the hammer as well. I guess it worked!

Thanks again,

Ted Lingley,Tracy, CA

41 Subject: Looking for ping pong balls found Model 19 Posted : 6/15/04

At the age of about 10 I found an old model 19 in the joists of our semi-finished attic back in upstate New York while looking for lost ping pong balls. My dad thought it may have been stashed there by the kids who'd grown up in the house before us, probably around the 40's and 50's. Our local gun store guy told me they were given away when someone bought a car and that it was pretty much worthless. With nothing to lose I disassembled as much as I could and blued it, and oiled up the stock, so it looks fine. I have been vaguely curious about this neat little gun ever since I found it, 25 years ago now, and got a real kick from your site, great job!

Nate,Sacramento, Ca.

42 Subject: Found Model 27 in garbage can. Posted : 6/30/04

Dear Jim,

I have owned a model #27 .22 for 56 years and have always wondered about where it came from. After talking to a friend at coffee this morning, I thought that I would type in the Hamilton rifle company and see what happens. I was delighted to find your web page. I looked at the model number on my rifle and clicked on the page. My aunt and uncle found the gun in a garbage can in Chicago and gave it to me 56 years ago when I was 8. Someone had removed the firing pin but I was able to make one out of a brad (small nail). I have only shot it a few times, with shorts, as the locking mechanism does not work very well.

Thank you very much for your web site and information.

Fred Rice, Escanaba, MI

43. Subject: Found Grandfathers Model 027. Posted: 8/01/04

Jim,

You were right; I have searched for quite some time on the web looking for information on my Hamilton Model - 027rifle and at lasted my search was over when I found your web site.

As a child I would visit my grandparents during summer break. My grandparents lived in Rogers City, MI. One summer while exploring in my grandparents attic (my grandfather never threw anything away), I found this small rifle. My grandfather had forgotten all about it and believed his father was the previous owner of the gun.

I asked my grandfather if the gun would work. He inspected the gun and felt that it would work. So we took it out to the back 40 and shoot at tin cans. The gun shot very accurate. Some years ago my grandfather passed and my aunt and uncle moved into my grandparent?s house. They asked family members if there was anything that they would like to have from the house. I requested the little 22 rifle. The rifle was not found for quite some time but eventually the gun was found and sent to me.

Thanks,

Al Franciosi, Houston, Texas

44. Subject: Father in law now 93 remembers Model 39 Posted: Sept.23, 04

Dear Jim :

First, my thanks for your excellent web site on Hamilton Rifles, and it was sure a pleasure to discover it and enjoyed learning more on not only the history but all the other models that were made.

I have a Model 39 that was given to me by my Father in law who is now 93 and still doing well and had told me this was his first gun as a boy and all he remembered was that he sold seeds back in the patch towns of the Hard Coal Region in NE Penna. to earn the $10 and change it took to buy it.

He told us his family back in them days lived on the game he and his father and brothers shot while hunting and unlike I guess the many boys who didn?t take care of them, he said in his family a gun of any type was not put away without being cleaned and a coat of oil put on it. So I guess that?s why some of these like this one survived and is still in great shape, and have taken it out several times and fired it and was surprised to see how great it still works and is sure accurate for a $10. gun.

Best Regards & Thanks

Bill Baker,Kennesaw, GA

45. Subject: Model 7, What is it? Posted: Oct. 15, 04

Jim,

Thank you for your excellent web page on the Hamilton Rifles. I have a Hamilton No. 7 that I found probably about 30 years ago when helping a neighbor tear down a ramshackle garage in Oklahoma. It was a total mess and he let me have it since it didn't appear to be much use for anything except to lean against a wall (Pretty much what it has been doing for the past 30 years.) Nearly all of the nickel plating is gone along with the trigger and trigger guard. Other than that it is in remarkably good shape for a "coupon" gun over 100 years old.

I was really excited to learn the background of the rifle, no one I had contacted had ever heard of the Hamilton Company and several gunsmiths thought it may have been a survival rifle from WWII. (I guess that would have been a logical guess considering the construction of the gun) Anyways, thanks again for your web site and the info provided. My No. 7 has never been fired (by me) and is pretty much only a conversation piece. (Even better now that I know the true history)

Mike Hoag, Grand Bay, Alabama

46. Subject: Model 27 help with chicken problem. Posted: Oct.22,04

Jim,

First of all, thanks for all the information on your website. I got this gun from my great, great, great uncle back in 1980. I was 12 years old. He was going through his outside shed, he found this rifle. His health was deteriorating and knew he was going to a nursing home, so he gave it to me to keep in the family. He died at age 92.

When he first gave it to me, I thought it was a BB gun. He told me that one of his neighbors was having problems with one of his neighbors' chickens getting in his green patch. He bought this rifle to rid the chickens. He was seen killing the chickens and was reported to the authorities. Before the law arrived, he told my uncle to keep this rifle until he came back for it. His neighbor never came back for it. I knew the rifle was old, but never knew any history of the maker. I never cared about the value of the gun, because I would never sell it. But it is great to know that I have one of the few left. I had to refinish it, because it was all rusty. It turned out great. The only thing wrong with it is the ejector is worn and won't eject the casings. I've shot shorts in it a couple of times, but it is primarily a conversation piece.

Thanks again for the information and history of this rifle.

Darrell Rountree, Metter, Ga.

47 Subject : Grandpa Model 7 stolen and much later got it back. Posted: Dec.11,04

JIM,

MY GRANDFATHER LEFT ME A MODEL 7 He was from Coaling, Alabama and moved to Columbus, Ms. When I was growing up, he still had his old home place in Coaling and we would go over with him during the summer and get to stay a week or two at a time at the old home place. No electricity, no running water and out house and all. Cats howling at night in the woods, we would sit on the front porch and he would tell my brother and I stories of how the panthers would come out of the woods at night and steal youngins such as we if we were bad boys.

Long story short, some people came and broke in and took everything Grandpa had one summer and burned the house down. We thought we would never hear from that again. The authorities called about two or three years later and said they had retrieved something my Grandpa could look at. It was the old Model 7 Hamilton. He identified it and they caught the people and he got back several items, including the Hamilton 22. The people got ten years in the stony lonesome.

I still have the Model 7 and wouldn't part with it for nothing. It will still shoot, not that I would shoot it often, but sometimes I remember those nights on the porch in Coaling and the stories. Great, wasn't it?

Thanks so much for your information. It met a great deal to me.

Jim Harrison, West Point, Mississippi

48. Subject: Model 27 brings back good memories. Posted: June 22, 2005

Jim, There is one more of us out there when it comes to the Hamilton Rifle Model 27 .22 cal. This was the first rifle my dad got when he was a boy. When I came along, this was the first rifle I ever fired. My dad passed away in 1995 at 85 and I am 61 and I still have it. Yesterday my son and grandson, (4 years old) fired it in my back yard. I would say it's in fine condition. All original parts and stock. I have wondered about this little rifle and thanks to you web page I now know. I think I will put it away.

Thanks in Christ,
Robert W. Ratterree Sr.
Rock Hill, SC

49. Subject: Model 27 Made Display Case with rifle information. Posted: July 27, 2005

I recently received a model 27 from my father in-law. My father in-law was a gun smith in his earlier days and acquired some nice collectable pieces. I myself collect guns from early days to present. I just want to thank you for you web site which has given me some information on the model 27. I recently made a display case for the rifle and I am framing some of the information that I obtained from your site to go along with the case.

Sincerely,
Ralph Smith

50. Subject: Model 39, Yes it?s a repeating Rifle. Posted: Aug.19, 2005
Jim
Many thanks for the web site. Saw my first Hamilton this past Friday at a friends place. It is a "model 39", he was told by a dealer and collector that they had never made a repeater among other things so thanks to you I was able to set him straight on what he has. He has not attempted to fire it but it appears to be in good condition. It is marked on the receiver end of the barrel as Ser#39 rather than model so we thought it was serial number 39 of a mystery rifle rather than a model number. Next time I get to ride up I'll shoot some photo's to e-mail you.
Thanks again.
Joe, Mobile, Al.

51. Subject: Model 027, Thank you, thank you Posted: Aug.31, 2005

Jim
Thank you, thank you for your site on the Hamilton Rifle Company. We were cleaning out an old attic this morning and came across a violin case. When we opened the case, there was a Hamilton Model 027 rifle inside. We had no idea what this gun was so we were very glad to come across your website. Based on your description of good, better, best, our gun seems to be in good condition. Thanks again for all your work on the website.
Dee

52. Subject: Model 7, Grandma?s gun, Posted: Nov.7, 2005
Jim
I have a Hamilton # 7 in excellent + condition, This rifle was my Grandmothers that she got for selling White Cloverine brand salve door to door, of which I also have a tin of. Don't want to sell just making you aware that there are still good ones out there.
Thanks Phil

53. Subject: Model 11. I worked on a what? Posted: Feb.24, 2006
Jim,
I enjoyed your Hamilton web site. With it I was able to identify a model 11 I repaired for a customer and learned more about the history of the company. I have had a model 39 for a couple of years and didn't know much about it.
Thanks for the info,

Mike Oldham [oldhammer13@centramedia.net]
Old Hammer Forge
Gunsmithing
Lefors, TX

54. Subject: Model 27. Great Skunk rifle!! Posted: March 3, 2006
Jim,
Thank you for your article on the Hamilton Rifle. My Grandfather past away a couple of years ago and he had this rifle no one knew about. Although he always told of going out Skunk hunting when he was a boy, His mom made him sleep outside when he came back every time. He always talked about it but I finally found the gun way back in his closet after he passed. It is really neat to know the history of a firearm.

Thanks for the article.
David Wilson

55. Subject: Model 51. Great Memories! Posted: March 31, 2006
I owned and shot many thousands of rounds in my trusty Hamilton rifle from about 1939 until 1946 when I bought a model 61 Winchester. I paid $4 for the Model 51 Hamilton. At the end of the time it was with me, it sometimes failed to extract and eject the shells. I hunted rabbits, squirrels, doves, quail, game chickens, fox, and ducks on a pond, frogs, turtles and probably other critters that I can't remember. I still have the Winchester 61, a Ranger, Remington 510, and 512 that I bought and was never able to part with. I wish I had not parted with the Hamilton.

Thanks very much for being able to see a picture of the Hamilton.
Chuck Lathram

56. Subject: Model 27, Grandfather's Rifle Posted:Aug. 25,2006

Jim,
Glad I found your site. I have my grandfather?s model 27 he received as a boy. He was born in 1902. He used this rifle almost up to his death in 1994 as a means of keeping squirrels out of his bird feeders. He would fire 22 scatter shot bullets from it. Gun is still in excellent condition.

Bill

57. Subject: Japanese Model 027 Xmas present Posted: Jan. 5, 2007

My father bought one of these rifles for my brother when he was very young because he was so small in size that dad's guns were a little tough on him. Our dad passed away in 1992 and I asked my mother to give him the gun. For reasons only known to her, she did not do it. We have a brother who is special needs and we allowed for him to go ahead and maintain our parent?s home and its contents. This week, I purchased the gun from him and will be giving it to my brother for Christmas along with the most helpful information from your web page. It will be a most wonderful gift for him and having the printed information from you on the history of the gun will make it even more special for him and for me. I would like to add that the gun is all original and in excellent condition and nothing is marred or rusted, etc. Thank you so much for making the history of the gun a special part of our day.
Personal Regards, Sandra LeGrand Robinson, Illinois

58. Subject: Model 47 Great Gun Posted: Jan. 5, 2007

Jim,
I enjoyed reading your article on the old J C Hamilton rifles. My father had a model 47 which I shot for the first time around 1952 at a young age of eleven. I am now 65 and I still have the gun and it is in good condition. I shot it quite a lot as a youngster but it hasn't been fired a dozen times in the last forty years. It had No. 47 stamped on it so I was confused about the model. I was excited to learn that the No. 47 was a Model 47. It has the barrel with the brass insert and the knurled cocking knob that was difficult for me to pull back when I was just a kid. Placing a leather pull cord on the knob made it easy for me to cock it back then.
Thanks for the information.
Stan Childs,
Wichita, Ks

59. Subject: Model 27 Grandpa paid $2.50 Posted: Feb. 26, 2007

Hi!
Thank you for all the work you did creating the website. I'm sure gathering the info was harder than building the website (& both being very time consuming)!

Anyways, I found your website after my dad asked me to research grandpa's old .22 caliber rifle. When my grandpa was just a boy, my grandpa bought it for $2.50 from a catalog. Grandpa passed it on to my dad (I think sometime after my parents were already married). Growing up, I remember it being displayed on the family room wall.

It's a model #27, with both patent dates (Oct. 30, 1900 and Aug. 13, 1907), and C.J.Hamilton & Son, Plymouth, MI USA. It is still in wonderful condition & I believe still in working order. But dad said he's afraid to fire it because it's almost 100 years old. He's worried that something could go wrong if he tried to fire it. He said he thinks it worked many years ago when he had hung it on the wall.

I think my dad might be thinking about passing it on to me (first daughter) because he knows how much I like antiques, or maybe he's considering on selling it. He didn't say.
Thanks again!
Cheri Anderson

60. Subject: Model 27, Grandpa Sold Garden Seeds Posted: March 27, 2007


Jim,
This is a great web site. I am the proud recipient of a model 27. The story is that my grandpa at the age 8 sold garden seeds door to door to obtain the rife. He used it for a short time, and then it was stashed away in its home made gunny sac lined with a wool blanket. My great uncle had forgotten about it till cleaning in his attic, and thought I might like a piece of family history. I was excited to have it as I have many of his other firearms collection. The rifle is in excellent condition and even fires well( What?s the point in having them if you can?t fire some lead down range.) The only thing I noticed was 2 screw holes on the butt should there be a plate or not.

Thank you

Sincerely Shawn Palmer

61. Subject: Model 51, Interesting Posted: June 20, 2007

Jim
I have a Hamilton rifle Model 51 that is in working condition. I found the information on your website for the Hamilton rifle very interesting and informative. Thanks for the info as I knew nothing about the history of my 51.
Bob Sunden




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