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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 12:58:12 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: slave info

I have transcript of will of John KERSEY, dated 26 Sep 1786, with wife Ursula,

son Tom who got a negro woman, son John who got a negro woman named Sarah, son

Drury who got negro woman named Cate, son William got negro boy named Peter,

daughter Elizabeth. Sons were executors, witnesses were Drury Vaughn,

Elizabeth Nunnald, Erwin Wood. Will proved Oct 1791. John died in Caswell,

North Carolina. Happy to give more details if it would help.

Linda

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 13:18:06 EST

Subject: Re: FW: Kersey /IND

I have a Stephen J KERSEY with brother William A, as well as sibs John M,

James W, Caroline, and Armstead Jerome b 1850, all children of James and Nancy

NEAL KERSEY. James was born 9 Nov 1809 in Nicholas County, Kentucky, and died

8 Feb 1899 in Boone County, Indiana. Sorry I don't have further info on

Stephen and sibs, but may be clue here to help you out.

Linda

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:16:34 -0800

Subject: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Hi folks--

Happy New Year! I have been thinking about some ideas for the group for the New Year. It seems like we have a great deal of Kersey information amongst us. There ought to be a way to pool it so we all can benefit and others can access it too. Here are some web pages I have seen that might give us some ideas:

This is service that links pages for specific surnames. The concept would be to set up a Kersey surname ring that would link all the web pages dealing with the Kersey family. This would be an easy step to take.

This is a beautiful site put together by the Hinshaw Family Association. They have a massive amount of data, pictures, text, etc. Very ambitious.

Similar to the Hinshaw site, a very large collection of data put together by a large group of Chenoweth family researchers.

Does the group have any interest in putting together a project like one of these? Any other ideas?

Marv

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:10:31 -0800

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Marvin Miller wrote:

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> ++++++++

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> ++++++++*************************************************

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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:16:34 -0800

> Subject: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

>

> Hi folks--

>

> Happy New Year! I have been thinking about some ideas for the group for the New Year. It seems like we have a great deal of Kersey

information amongst us. T

>

> This is service that links pages for specific surnames. The concept would be to set up a Kersey surname ring that would link all the web

pages dealing with th

>

> This is a beautiful site put together by the Hinshaw Family Association. They have a massive amount of data, pictures, text, etc.

Very ambitious.

>

> Similar to the Hinshaw site, a very large collection of data put together by a large group of Chenoweth family researchers.

>

> Does the group have any interest in putting together a project like one of these? Any other ideas?

>

> Marv

>

> ++++++++

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> Subject "Kersey: CMD:UNSUBSCRIBE"

>

> ++++++++Marve....I think the RING...connecting all KERSEYS ON the net would be

great...I was just sitting here trying to remember where all I have

posted my surnames...and queries....are...it is getting to be mind

boggling...HOPE YOU DO THAT REAL SOON!!!!!

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:02:16 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Marve,

Yes I would be interested. What can I do to help? I have seen the other web

pages, and they are great.

Maybe we can find more family that way, and share more information.

D. Buffum

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:54:53 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: slave info

Linda,

I would love to have more info. My Steven ( Stephen ) came from South

Carolina. He was born around 1812. I get this by calculating the U.S. Census.

Family stories are that Steven was an Indian, adopted by (?) Kersey. When he

was adopted is not known. Steven would have been about 18 years old during the

time of the Indian removel. I have found the Kersey name in the full blood

Seminoles, and also the Black Chickasaws. I know the story about the Indian

part must be true, because about two years ago I met Steven's GGrandaughter

who lives in South Florida. She told the exact same story almost word for

word, as I have heard it from older relatives here in Pensacola. This lady's

grandmother was Pocahontas Emma Kersey, who was Steven and Mary's youngest

child. Steven's second son Benjamin F. Kersey ( my greatgrandfather ) came to

Pensacola with Steven and family around 1880. Ben stayed in Pensacola, and

Steven and Mary went on to South Florida . They settled somewhere around

Ruskin, Fl. I have Census proof of all of that. I can't find Steven before

1850.

There are a lot of Black Kersey's . I don't know who Steven's real parents

were. Kersey could have been his real father. Why would anyone take an Indian

child and educate him to be a doctor? I am Caucasian, as well as the rest of

my family, until we get to Steven . There are a lot of unanswered questions,

and I need help desperately.

I would appreciate anything you could do to help.

Thank you,

Doris Kersey Buffum

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Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 17:25:23 -0600

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Let's go for the RING.

Jane Powell

At 04:54 PM 1/1/98 EST, Marvin Miller wrote:

>++++++++

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>

>++++++++*************************************************

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>Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:10:31 -0800

>Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

>

>

>Marvin Miller wrote:

>>

>> ++++++++

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>> Kersey Family History and Genealogy Discussion List

>>

>> ++++++++*************************************************

>>

>> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:16:34 -0800

>> Subject: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

>>

>> Hi folks--

>>

>> Happy New Year! I have been thinking about some ideas for the group for

the New Year. It seems like we have a great deal of Kersey

>information amongst us. T

>>

>> This is service that links pages for specific surnames. The concept

would be to set up a Kersey surname ring that would link all the web

>pages dealing with th

>>

>> This is a beautiful site put together by the Hinshaw Family Association.

They have a massive amount of data, pictures, text, etc.

>Very ambitious.

>>

>> Similar to the Hinshaw site, a very large collection of data put

together by a large group of Chenoweth family researchers.

>>

>> Does the group have any interest in putting together a project like one

of these? Any other ideas?

>>

>> Marv

>>

>> ++++++++

>>

>> Kersey Family History and Genealogy Discussion List

>>

>> Subject "Kersey: CMD:UNSUBSCRIBE"

>>

>> ++++++++Marve....I think the RING...connecting all KERSEYS ON the net

would be

>great...I was just sitting here trying to remember where all I have

>posted my surnames...and queries....are...it is getting to be mind

>boggling...HOPE YOU DO THAT REAL SOON!!!!!

>

>++++++++

>

>Kersey Family History and Genealogy Discussion List

>

> Subject "Kersey: CMD:UNSUBSCRIBE"

>

>++++++++

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>

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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:58:07 -0600

Subject: Re: Kersey: slave info

Marv -- I just picked the grandfather of my gg-grandfather (generation 3,

William KERSEY) as a place to start. With regard to slave information, I

know that William KERSEY (generation 3) owned several plantations

around Decatur GA (outside Atlanta). This information is from a cousin who

was tracing Farrell information with whom I have lost all contact and from

family history from my grandmother. According to the story, he was running

the blockade selling cotton and being paid in gold (not confirmed, but makes

a good story). In any event, his son pre-deceased him and the plantations

went to his daughter's (Mary Ann) husband, Richard William Farrell. The

story gets really messy at this point, but the plantations went the way

plantations went in GA and at some point Mr. Farrell moved to north Alabama

(Madison County) -- possibly via TN. I am quite certain that this Kersey

owned slaves (probably Farrell also), but have no records to verify this

information.

Regarding Kersey's listed as black on census records, I am sure everyone remembers that it was not uncommon for slaves to take the name of their owners during this time. This practice may account for what appears to be a sudden appearance of black Kerseys in the census records.

If anyone has information regarding this particular William Kersey -- plots, land-holdings, census data, etc., I will appreciate hearing from you. Thanks.

Susan Wilson

Descendants of William Kersey

1 William KERSEY b: 1722 Pennsylvania d: 20 November 1764 New Garden,

Guilford County, North Carolina Number of children: 5

.. +ELIZABETH m: 19 September 1746 Father: Mother:

*2nd Wife of William Kersey:

.. +Hannah HUNT b: 20 January 1730/31 Chester County, Pennsylvania m: 17

January 1748/49 Guilford, Deep River MM, North Carolina Number of children:

5 Father: William HUNT Mother: Mary WOOLMAN

....... 2 Eleazer KERSEY b: 27 August 1762 Springfield, Guilford County,

North Carolina d: 01 June 1816 Springfield, Deep River, Guilford County,

North Carolina Number of children: 9

........... +Elizabeth HARLAN b: 05 May 1764 Chester County, Pennsylvania d:

Randolph County, North Carolina m: 12 July 1784 Fandolph County, NC Number

of children: 9 Father: Stephen HARLAN Mother: Mary CARTER

............... 3 Williiam KERSEY b: 10 October 1791 Guilford County, North

Carolina d: 21 May 1851 Georgia Number of children: 3

................... +Nancy THOMAS b: 1792 Virginia d: 05 June 1851 Georgia

m: 08 December 1816 Number of children: 3 Father: Mother:

....................... 4 Mary Ann KERSEY b: 07 October 1827 Cowota County,

Georgia d: 29 December 1893 Madison County, Alabama Number of children: 4

........................... +Richard William FARRELL b: 01 January 1820

Clonmello, County Westmeath, Ireland d: 06 April 1899 Huntville, Madison

County, Alabama m: 29 April 1852 Georgia Number of children: 4 Father:

William J. O'FARRELL Mother:

............................... 5 Jesse Robert Emmett FARRELL b: 15 May

1867 d: 22 February 1937 Huntville, Madison County, Alabama Number of

children: 6

................................... +Florence Estelle WEBB b: 22 February

1873 Alabama d: 01 April 1912 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama m: Georgia

Number of children: 6 Father: John Gilbert WEBB Mother: Lucy A. MOONEY

....................................... 6 Bernard Emmitt FARRELL b: 26

October 1892 Hazel Green, Madison County, Alabama d: 16 November 1948

Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama

....................................... 6 Beulah Vivian FARRELL b: 04

December 1894 Madison County, Alabama d: 22 June 1988 Huntsville, Madison

County, Alabama

........................................... +Fritzell BARNES b: 1889 Alabama

d: 1971 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama m: Madison County, Alabama

Father: Mother:

....................................... 6 Leamon Buell FARRELL b: 05

February 1896 Madison County, Alabama d: 06 February 1963 Madison County,

Alabama Number of children: 3

........................................... +MABEL d: 1996 Fayetteville,

Lincoln County, TN Number of children: 2 Father: Mother:

................................................ 7 Robert FARRELL

................................................ 7 Marie FARRELL

....................................... *2nd Wife of Leamon Buell Farrell:

........................................... +Claramae LYLE b: 24 January

1902 d: 27 October 1923 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama Number of

children: 1 Father: Mother:

................................................ 7 L.B. FARRELL

....................................... 6 Jessie Maud FARRELL b: 22 April

1898 Hazel Green, Madison County, Alabama d: 01 November 1987 Huntsville,

Madison County, Alabama Number of children: 2

........................................... +Ted LIGON Number of

children: 2 Father: Mother:

................................................ 7 Betty Lou LIGON

................................................ 7 Mary Jane LIGON

....................................... 6 Lucy May FARRELL b: 24 May 1901

Hazel Green, Madison County, Alabama d: 22 June 1997 Hazel Green, Madison

County, Alabama Number of children: 1

........................................... +Charles T. "Jack" WILSON b: 10

February 1892 Harms, Lincoln County, Tennessee d: 25 January 1955

Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama m: 01 July 1920 Huntville, Madison

County, Alabama Number of children: 1 Father: Samuel Matthew WILSON Mother:

Mary Caldona WEST

................................................ 7 Charles T. "JACK, Jr."

Wilson b: 05 June 1921 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama d: 06 August 1995

Ft. Worth, Tarrant County, Texas Number of children: 4

.................................................... +Iva Marie MILLER b: 21

August 1923 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama m: 11 December 1942 Dayton,

Ohio Number of children: 4 Father: Mother:

........................................................ 8 Carolyn Marie

WILSON b: 17 October 1945 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama d: 24 October

1945 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama

........................................................ 8 Susan Louise

WILSON b: 03 February 1947 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama Number of

children: 2

............................................................ +Len Thomas

SPRAGINS, Jr b: 03 April 1935 Nacadogches, Texas m: 03 March 1967 Ft.

Worth, Tarrant County, Texas Number of children: 2 Father: Len Thomas

SPRAGINS Mother: Bonnie PORTER

................................................................ 9 Edward

Craig SPRAGINS b: 30 April 1968 Dallas, Texas

................................................................ 9 Darrell

Reid SPRAGINS b: 01 April 1970 Dallas, Texas

........................................................ 8 Melinda Jean

"Mel" WILSON b: 20 June 1954

............................................................ +James JACKSON

Father: Mother:

........................................................ *2nd Husband of

Melinda Jean Wilson:

............................................................ +Bruce PETERSON

m: 08 February 1992 Jackson, Teton County, Wyoming Father: Mother:

........................................................ 8 Mary Jacqueline

"Jackie" WILSON b: 14 August 1958 Huntsville, Madison County, Alabama

............................................................ +Timothy POWELL

m: Ft. Worth, Tarrant County, Texas Father: Mother:

....................................... 6 Florence Estelle FARRELL b: 26

November 1907

............................... 5 Richard Buauregard FARRELL b: 09 June

1863

............................... 5 James Austin FARRELL b: 1858 d: 1937

Madison County, Alabama

............................... 5 William N. FARRELL b: 25 March 1854 d: 03

April 1926 Madison County, Alabama

................................... +Minnie Ammonett VAUGHN b: 01 February

1855 d: 13 April 1928 Madison County, Alabama Father: Mother:

....................... 4 Martha A. KERSEY b: 30 June 1833 Georgia d: 02

August 1900 Madison County, Alabama

....................... 4 John KERSEY

............... 3 Alice KERSEY b: 28 August 1785 North Carolina d: 10 April

1850 Parke County, Indiana

................... +Seth BEESON Father: Mother:

............... 3 Ester KERSEY

................... +Abram WOLFINGTON Father: Mother:

............... 3 Stephen KERSEY b: 06 May 1789 North Carolina d: 12 March

1845 Parke County, Indiana

................... +Jemima LEONARD Father: Mother:

............... 3 Enoch KERSEY b: 10 May 1794 d: 01 December 1837

................... +Sarah CURL Father: Mother:

............... 3 Jesse KERSEY b: ca 1796 Builford County, North Caroling

............... 3 Eleazer KERSEY b: 17 July 1798 North Carolina d: 08 March

1854 Hendricks County, Indiana

................... +Naomi HODSON m: 21 November 1835 Hendricks County,

Indiana Father: Mother:

............... 3 Moses KERSEY b: 06 September 1800 Springfield, Guilford

County, North Carolina d: 11 October 1841

................... +Asenath RICKS Father: Mother:

............... 3 Elizabeth KERSEY

....... 2 Amos KERSEY b: 15 February 1749/50 Maryland

........... +Dinah BEESON Father: Mother:

....... 2 Jesse KERSEY b: 01 December 1753 d: August 1822

........... +Rachel HAWORTH Father: Mother:

....... 2 Daniel KERSEY Number of children: 1

........... +Mary CARTER m: 25 November 1778 Deep River, Guilford County,

North Carolina Number of children: 1 Father: Mother:

............... 3 Hannah KERSEY b: 27 August 1781 Guilford County, North

Carolina d: 23 August 1844 Spiceland, Henry County, Indiana

....... *2nd Wife of Daniel Kersey:

........... +Ann IRWIN m: 16 October 1800 Springfield, Guilford County,

North Carolina Father: Mother:

....... 2 Thomas KERSEY b: 15 September 1759 Guilford County, North

Carolina d: 10 August 1835 Clinton County, Ohio Number of children: 7

........... +Rebecca CARTER Number of children: 7 Father: Mother:

............... 3 Mary Ann KERSEY

............... 3 John Dersey KERSEY

............... 3 Elizabeth KERSEY

............... 3 Ann (Nancy?) KERSEY

............... 3 Thomas KERSEY

............... 3 Rebecca KERSEY

............... 3 Carter KERSEY

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 00:15:12, -0500

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Marv - Thanks for all you have done so far. We all benefit. I think

any of your ideas are worth pursuing. How can those of us w/ limited

skills in this technology help?

Nancy

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:16:36 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

I think it would be an excellent idea to link KERSEY information sites

together. Unfortunately, I am too busy with Family History to have time to

offer!! However, I have added the history of the KERSEY family from Kent,

England to my web pages. Some decendants of this family are in Canada and

North USA.. The other page covers the Oxfordshire, England KERSEY family who

were mormons and emigrated to USA.

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:53:58 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: slave info

Susan,

I would like to let you know that Eleazer, Daniel, and Thomas who married

Elizabeth, Mary, and Rebecca CARTER were daughters of John CARTER and Ann

WHIP(PLE)s

I have heard stories that there is Indian or native american blood in the

background.

also that census takers if you had a dark complexion could put down that you

were black ...you never really know .

Alice Ohlsson Tatum

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 16:11:05 -0500

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

My server will not let me access Hugh Kearsey's Web site, can you access it

Marv. I clicked on the Web site address and could not get thru. I usually have

problems with AOL. I would like to see what he has, maybe something in address

left out?

Thanks,

Susan Kersey Darnell

Marvin Miller wrote:

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> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:16:36 EST

> Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

>

> I think it would be an excellent idea to link KERSEY information sites

> together. Unfortunately, I am too busy with Family History to have time to

> offer!! However, I have added the history of the KERSEY family from Kent,

> England to my web pages. Some decendants of this family are in Canada and

> North USA.. The other page covers the Oxfordshire, England KERSEY family who

> were mormons and emigrated to USA.

>

>

> Hugh Kearsey

>

> ++++++++

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> Kersey Family History and Genealogy Discussion List

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> Subject "Kersey: CMD:UNSUBSCRIBE"

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 17:23:47 -0800

Subject: Kersey: Hugh Kearsey page

Hi folks--

Looks like the URL in Hugh's posting should be:

NOT:

That will get you to his page. But the links to "Kersey family from Kent" and "Kent Family Tree" don't seem to work. What's up Hugh?

Marv

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:32:16, -0500

Subject: Kersey: Hugh Kearsey WebSite

I have also tried Hugh Kearsey's Web Site and was unable to access

it. Any suggestions? I would very much like to see what he has.

Pat Henry

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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 05:13:28 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

To all,

I am having problems with my personal web site. Probably my incompetance!

Yes, I did mess up the address! It shoud be, when it works:

It looks as if my last uploads got corrupted. I reuploaded Index.htm yesterday. It seems as if that now works, so I will reupload the Kent KERSEY files. However, I spent yesterday updating them as I had new information. Today I hope to add some 1881 census data I had previously overlooked. I don't understand the problem as my Oxfordshire Family History Society site works alright.

Email me direct and I will attach any pages to a reply email. At least that works with AOL!

I do a "One Name Study" of KERSEY & KEARSEY, so should have most records of these names in England.

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:53:15 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: slave info

Alice,

Thanks for the information. We appreciate all the help that we can get. I include Janas M in on this, we are cousins. We found this out through the Kersey line. We have the same greatgrandfather. B.F. Kersey. What is so confusing to me is; my Kersey's are listed as white on the Census Records. The only hint of dark complexion is on B.F. Kersey's parole papers from a Union Prison after the war. Ben was captured in TN. However when he came to Florida his neighbors are listed as Colored. I have a picture of Ben's daughter and she is white, but with indian features. I really believe that our hiertage lies with the Indians somewhere. I just can't find documented proof. The only thing that I have found is the Kersey name among the Seminoles, and the Chicksaw. Also the fact that Ben's father, Steven named some of his children indian names. William Jasper, ( Ben's brother ) named some of his children indian names. I am told that I have an Indian nicname. My father died when I was a baby, but he gave me the nicname of Nuneea, which means child of the afternoon. My birth certificate shows that I WAS born in the afternoon.

Sorry to be so lengthly, but wanted to clear up the Slave portion of this

Somehow I must have confused everyone, with my e-mail.

My hiertige could be among the Black Indians, but I don't know WHERE!

Calling all Kersey's, PLEASE HELP!

Doris Kersey Buffum

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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:01:21 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: slave info

Alice,

sorry I didn't see the Susan that you directed your e-mail to. I print mhy e-mail, and answer it later. It's early in the morning, and I assumed the letter was to me, and thus answered it as such.

If Susan is going down the same line, maybe Our Lines connect, if she has

found the Indian blood also ?

Again Thanks, and Sorry,

D. Buffum

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Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 10:42:57 +0000

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Sounds very worthwhile to me-- I am computer illiterate but I know this will save someone many hours and $ to get Kersey info.  Before the internet connections, I  cannot

imagine adding up all the hours of research we all have done.  Thanks for the idea.  Go for it.

Marvin Miller wrote:

> ++++++++

>

> Kersey Family History and Genealogy Discussion List

>

> ++++++++*************************************************

>

> Date:  Thu, 1 Jan 1998 11:16:34 -0800

> Subject:  Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

>

> Hi folks--

>

> Happy New Year!  I have been thinking about some ideas for the group for the New Year.  It seems like we have a great deal of Kersey information amongst us.  There ought to be a way to pool it so we all can benefit and others can access it too.  Here are some web pages I have seen that might give us some ideas:

>

> This is service that links pages for specific surnames.  The concept would be to set up a Kersey surname ring that would link all the web pages dealing with the Kersey family.  This would be an easy step to take.

>

> This is a beautiful site put together by the Hinshaw Family Association.  They have a massive amount of data, pictures, text, etc.  Very ambitious.

>

> Similar to the Hinshaw site, a very large collection of data put together by a large group of Chenoweth family researchers.

>

> Does the group have any interest in putting together a project like one of these?  Any other ideas?

>

> Marv

>

> ++++++++

>

> Kersey Family History and Genealogy Discussion List

>

>      Subject  "Kersey: CMD:UNSUBSCRIBE"

>

> ++++++++

<SVL>

Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 15:11:19 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: Ideas for the New Year

Hi,

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 08:40:43 -0800

Subject: Kersey: RE: Kearsey URL Problem

Hi Hugh--

Upper and lower case does seem to make a difference to Netscape. I can't access your Kent pages as they are linked on your main page. But if I edit the URLs to change the file names to KENT.htm and KEN_Tree.htm, they work!!

Are there multiple pages to the Kent family tree? The page I can see has references to page 2 and page 3 that I can't see.

Marv

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 1998 12:36 AM

Subject: Re: URL Problem

I am still baffled by my URL problem. No way can I access my own pages with

the AOL software, by it works with EXPLORER4

AOL says the use of upper or lower case makes no difference!.

Sorry about all this.

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:35:59 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey family in Debenham, Suffolk

Trudy,

Unfortunately, I have not been able to fit Sarah KERSEY bapt. 6 Dec. 1722 at Debenham on any tree. The only information I have is from the IGI which gives her parents as Thomas and Mary.

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:14:39 -0600

Subject: Re: Kersey: Family Bible

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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charset="iso-8859-1"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

To all the Kersey folks:

I got a new toy for Christmas and have scanned the family pages of our Keirsey family Bible. These are attached for those of you who can decipher a .jpg format. I sharpened the images as best I could with a photo program. If anyone can't open the files, I will be happy to e-mail you the unsharpened images if you will send your address to me directly. Happy New Year to all!

Oh, I sort of named the files in the wrong order. Try starting with #3 or #4 for the oldest information.

Susan

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<SVL>

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 03:36:24 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: RE: Kearsey URL Problem

To all,

We all have to learn all those unwritten peculiarities about web sites and the Internet. I will amend the liks on my main page.

I also now realise that page numbering makes no sense when a document is saved in html. I will remove references to pages and try to add tags. Did the coat of arms show up? I may move that out of the document and put a link to it on my main page.

Thanks all for your helpful comments.

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:01:37 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: RE: Kearsey URL Problem

Hugh

am I looking in the wrong place. ? I can't find your web site. I have found others. Maybe I am too computer illiterate. I would love to have a coat of arms. My husbands family has one, and I have it framed. I'd like a Kersey one to go beside it. Weather my GGGrandfather was adopted or not, I am a Kersey! I appreciate all of your hard work in bringing this page to us. Marv has done an excellent job in getting all of us Kerseys together,. I look forward to my e-mail. I print and save everything. It's almost like going to the library.

Again thanks,

D. Kersey Buffum

<SVL>

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:49:05 -0800

Subject: Kersey: RE: Your Dau Page

Hi Peggy--

Sorry for the confusion. No, we are not related that I know of. I have been collecting the Kersey information that people have been posting and putting it in my database so that when I am doing research I will know if I have found a connection with anyone in the group. I side effect is that when I update my web page from my database, all of that information shows up. I have also been adding miscellaneous Kerseys that I find here and there. A.W. Kersey and the Nannie Kersey who married W.B. Carlile are in that category. I found their marriage records in the Family Tree Maker marriage bundle. I really appreciate your information linking them to other Kerseys. That's what I think this list can really do well. We have a chance to pool a lot of information and start to tie the bits and pieces together.

By the way, I would be happy to do lookups for anyone in the group in the FTM marriage bundle, FTM census bundle, New England Genealogical and Historical Register (not much Kersey information, but lots of New England) or in Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy (I have vol. 1 North Carolina, vol. 2 Pennsylvania and New Jersey, vol. 4 & 5 Ohio, and vol 6 Virginia).

In general I am related, however distantly, to everyone on my page except for three groups. One is the Kerseys where I have been putting all the lines I know about on the page. The other two are ancestors and descendants of President Franklin Pierce and of Josiah Bartlett, second signer of the Declaration of Independence. In those cases there are family legends that we are somehow related to those two famous people, so in trying to find a connection, I have been recording everything I can about them. So far I have shown that Franklin Pierce and Josiah Bartlett are related to each other but not to my family!

Marv

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 7:35 PM

Subject: Your Dau Page

MARVE...will you please explain to me if you are related to all the

Laurel GEE is my maternal great grandfather

A.W. Kersey (I am pretty sure is a twin named ADAM W. KERSEY who married Mittie Parker )is my paternal great grandfather Wm Jackson Kersey's younger brother....Wm Jackson is also the husband of Laurel/Sarah Gee's daughter Mary Gee...please answer my QUESTION OF CURIOUSITY! Are we related or not? Thank you Peggy Kersey Winkel

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:01:16 -0800

Subject: Kersey: FW: Kearsey URL Problem

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 11:49 AM

Subject: RE: Kearsey URL Problem

I'm just wondering why others can't access Hugh's web site while I'm having no

problem at all. This is the URL I use to get there. Would some of you try it out

and see what happens. I know that it's "not suppose to make any difference" but

if I try it with the upper case "I" as in "/Index.htm" it will not work. Works

for me when changed to lower case "i" as in "/index.htm.

--

Eddie Bryant

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:04:43 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: FW: Kearsey URL Problem

I finally reached Hugh Kersey's page but when i clicked on his family tree i

couldn't get it. I got a message from AOL saying "The requested url was not

found on this server. I don't understand it, I am also on AOL. Any

suggestions?

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:36:58 -0800

Subject: Kersey: RE: Kearsey URL Problem

Hi folks--

The top level URL for Hugh's page seems to work fine now. The links to the Oxfordshire and Kersey Family of Kent pages also work. The Kent Family Tree link still points to KEN_TREE.htm, but needs to point to KEN_Tree.htm. The Kent KERSEY Coat of Arms link points to KENT_COA.gif, but needs to point to kent_coa.gif. You can edit those last two file names into the URL and get to the pages. You will like the coat of arms. Hugh - don't keep us in suspense! What does the motto mean? My Latin never was that good, and the online dictionaries I could find were no help.

Marv

Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 1998 11:49 AM

Subject: RE: Kearsey URL Problem

I'm just wondering why others can't access Hugh's web site while I'm having no

problem at all. This is the URL I use to get there. Would some of you try it out

and see what happens. I know that it's "not suppose to make any difference" but

if I try it with the upper case "I" as in "/Index.htm" it will not work. Works

for me when changed to lower case "i" as in "/index.htm.

--

Eddie Bryant

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 03:36:34 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: Kent family coat of arms and URL problem

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

D,

The problem seems to be a mixture of internet illiteracy (mine), and AOLs

inability to read its own web sites! Also Upper/lower case seems significant

and AOLs FTP system seems to change names randomly. However, I attach the GIF

version of the coat of arms (uncoloured) together with the description of the

colours (in old English!).

>From about 1838 to at least 1850 he was a Boot and Shoe Maker living at High Street, Deptford. At the time of his marriage, Robert was living at Blackman Street, Southwark. By 1879 they were living at Hurst Lodge, High Road, Lee, Kent. Robert was granted a Coat of Arms in 1879, and was described as "Cousin to the late John WOOLMORE, chairman of the Hon. East India Company and Trinity Board." Details of his Arms are as follows: Livery. Dark Blue, brass buttons. Armoral BearingsArgent on a pile between two roses gules, barbed and gelded proper boar's head carped of the field. Mantling Oxalis and Argent. Crest On a wreath of colours upon a mant. vert. between two branches of cinquefoils, a boar's head in the arms. Motto"Peractus conamine".

In his will, Robert said his coat of arms should only be used by his direct

descendents!

There is a fair chance (if you have Explorer4) to read the full Kent Kersey

family history. Try :

Case is apparently very important.

Hugh Kearsey

name="KENT_COA

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 04:39:58 EST

Subject: Kersey: Latin motto

Marv,

Thanks for the help over the URL problem.

Can anybody translate the KERSEY motto "Peractus conamine" ?

My last latin lesson was 55 years ago!

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 04:39:57 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: FW: Kearsey URL Problem

I still haven't sorted out the Kent KERSEY Family Tree web Page. However, I

have just received more data that will enable me to update both the history

and the tree.

I am sorely tempted to change my server! I regard AOL as "cheap and cheerful", but not much good for serious web work when their own software won't access there own sites!

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 04:39:58 EST

Subject: Kersey: Re: 'KEIRSEY1.JPG' etc.

Marv,

Downloads came as part of an email, not an attached file and were therefore

unreadable. AOL splits up long emails into downloaded files and changes their

names to '.txt'

"[Only the first 2K of this message is displayed, as it is too long to view

through AOL. The entire message has been turned into a text attachment, which

you can retrieve by selecting Download. Once downloaded, open it with a word

processor or text editor for reading.]"

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Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 06:27:01 -0800

Subject: FW: Kersey: Latin motto

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 1998 6:17 AM

Subject: Re: Kersey: Latin motto

We looked up the phrase in a Latin dictionary and it roughly translates

to sharp witted or sharp endeavor. I guess we can take our pick.

Susan Kersey Darnell

Marvin Miller wrote:

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> Marv,

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> Thanks for the help over the URL problem.

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> Can anybody translate the KERSEY motto "Peractus conamine" ?

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> My last latin lesson was 55 years ago!

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> Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:09:32 -0800

Subject: Re: Kersey: Kent family coat of arms and URL problem

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:14:33 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey coat of arms

Marv,

thanks for the Coat of Arms, and pages from Bible. they came through

beautifully.

Thanks to Hugh for all of his effort. I acessed his web site, but didn't get

his page. His page is listed among 9,698 possibles. I went through over 200 of

them and got tired of searching. Is there an eaiser way?

Again Thanks,

D. Kersey Buffum

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:10:59 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey coat of arms

Thanks, I did receive the caot of arms.

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:00:00 -0600

Subject: Re: Kersey: Apology for jpg files

Dear Marv and Kersey group -- I apologize for the trouble I caused by

scanning and sending the scanned Bible pages. I certainly never meant for

it to be so difficult. If anyone is interested in that line of the family,

they can contact me directly. Also, for the provenience on the pages. They

are located with me (address follows)

Susan L. Wilson

3317 Sunnydale Lane

Denton, TX 76201

(817) 591-8574

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:03:26 -0800

Subject: RE: Kersey: Apology for jpg files

Hi Susan--

No need to apologize. The pages are beautiful. We are all friends here, and all learning how to do this list stuff together. Given that there doesn't seem to be any one way to get a file out to the whole group, I think the best thing is not to attach files to messages to the group. (Notice that I violated my own suggestion several times already today. I'm learning too.) When someone has a file that might be of interest to the group they can send a group message advertising the file and inviting individuals to ask for it. Then the file owner can respond to each request. Or I will be happy to add files to the GET directory and those who can access files that way can get them for themselves and I can mail individually to anyone whose combination of mail software, servers, etc. doesn't let them GET files. Any other ideas?

Marv

Sent: Thursday, January 08, 1998 10:00 AM

Subject: Re: Kersey: Apology for jpg files

Dear Marv and Kersey group -- I apologize for the trouble I caused by

scanning and sending the scanned Bible pages. I certainly never meant for

it to be so difficult. If anyone is interested in that line of the family,

they can contact me directly. Also, for the provenience on the pages. They

are located with me (address follows)

Susan L. Wilson

3317 Sunnydale Lane

Denton, TX 76201

(817) 591-8574

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 04:37:47 EST

Subject: Kersey Coat of Arms

Now we have learn't how and how not to send files, dare I ask if there is

anybody who would volunteer to colour the KERSEY coat of arms in its proper

colours.

The KEIRSEY jpg files even print out beautifully in black and white! I must get a flat bed scanner!

Continued apologies about my web site, but there should be enough messages how you might get it!

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 09:19:50 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey coat of arms

Kersey Group,

I have had the Kersey Coat Of Arms all along. I didn't think that it was a

valid coat of arms until, I received the one from the Kersey list, yesterday.

My uncle William A. Kersey gave it to me before he died. I didn't know where

he had gotten it from, that's the reason for not thinking it real.

Here's what is on it.

THE KERSEY COAT OF ARMS HEREBY ILLUSTRATED IS OFFICIALLY DOCUMENTED IN BURKE'S GENERAL ARMORY. tHE ORIGINAL DESCRIPTIONOF THE ARMS ( SHIELD ) IS AS FOLLOWS;

"AR. GUTTEE DE POIX A SALTIRE GU."

WHEN TRANSLATED ---THE BLAZON ALSO DESCRIBES THE ORIGINAL COLORS OF THE KERSEY

ARMS AS:

"SILVER; SPRINKLED WITH BLACK SPOTS; A RED CROSS."

ABOVE THE SHIELD AND HELMET IS THE CREST WHICH IS DESCRIBED AS:

"A BOAR'S HEAD SEVERED GOLD."

Hope this is some help. Sometimes we are in possession of things that we don't realize to be the truth, until someone else shows it to us ! I will now frame this and hang it along side of the Buffum Coat Of Arms, thanks Hugh.

Also thanks to Susan, for the Bible pages. I gave Hugh credit for that, sorry.

I have heard a Durey Kersey mentioned in the family. Could he be some kin to

my Steven? On one of the Census reports , Steven's name is spelled Keirsey.

D. Buffum

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:52:19 -0600

Subject: Re: Kersey coat of arms

Marv -- Hate to appear dumb, but I must have missed some mail in the past

few days. I keep seeing references to the Coat of Arms. I didn't get

this -- is it on the web somewhere to download? Confused as usual, Susan

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:08:47, -0500

Subject: Kersey: coat of arms etc

Marv,

Thanks for resending the coat of arms and Bible records.

They came out perfectly. I've printed out the coat of arms. Thanks

also goes to Hugh and Susan. Also a thank you to Doris for sending

the colors. Appreciated the effort of everyone.

Thanks!! Pat Henry

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:12:08, -0500

Subject: Kersey: RE: GOBBLE DEE GOOP????

Marv - Being somewhat computer illiterate - is there a way for "us

common folk" to get those downloads in the "non gobbledee goop" form?

Thanks a bunch,

Nancy

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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:10:35, -0500

Subject: Re: Kersey coat of arms

Marv - I got the coat of arms but not the Bible pages. Can you resend?

Thanks,

Nancy

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 00:21:29 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: RE: GOBBLE DEE GOOP????

<<

Marv - Being somewhat computer illiterate - is there a way for "us

common folk" to get those downloads in the "non gobbledee goop" form?

Thanks a bunch, >>

Same here Marv....that's all I pck up as well. I know there is a way to be

able to read it....just not for sure how. Thanks...Janas

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 01:46:23 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: RE: GOBBLE DEE GOOP????

I got the coat of arms but I could get the bible pages in a language my

computer understood.

Barbara

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 03:36:14 EST

Subject: Re: FW: Kersey: Latin motto

Just found another translation for the KERSEY motto;

"You attempt by doing it"

Hugh Kearsey

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:39:04 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey Coat of Arms

Hugh,

Please stop apologizing for your web site. At least you tried to bring

something to us, which is more than I have done.

I would be glad to color the Coat Of Arms. I ran black and white copies of

mine yesterday, and colored it. It's rather pretty when in color. However I

will send someone , anyone a copy. I don't have a flat color scanner either.

Maybe I can talk my son-in-law into making a copy, and sending it like Susan

did the Bible pages.

thanks

D.Buffum

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:51:30 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: RE: GOBBLE DEE GOOP????

Marv,

thanks I have my Bible pages, and coat of arms. My coat of arms is drawn by an

artist. It is the same as one sent only more professional. I am willing to

share it. I just don't know how to load it for everyone. Will try to get help

today or tomorrow, and send it to the Kersey List. If I can't do that I will

mail it to you, and you can upload it , PLEASE>

thanks for all you help.

D. Buffum

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:03:42 EST

Subject: Re: Kersey: coat of arms etc

Pat

I haven't heard from you in a while. Since you sent Janas my way, you sort of

sit back. Come on Girl get in here and help us find the puzzles of this side

of the family.

I would be so pleased if I could get on with the rest of my geneology, and

leave the Kersey's rest for a while. I haven't touched my mother's side of

the family since I vowed to not do any more until I found Steven before

Alabama. Someone told me to try Laurens County, South Carolina. CAn you help

with that?

Looking forward to meeting you , if you get home anytime soon.

Cuz,

Doris

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 07:33:35 -0800

Subject: FW: Kersey: UNSUBSCRIBE

Sent: Saturday, January 10, 1998 6:23 AM

To: Marv Miller

Subject: Re: Kersey: CMD:UNSUBSCRIBE

No, Marv, it wasn't anything said by you or any member of the Kersey

list that prompts me to unsubscribe. You are doing a very good job

there. I just didn't have much personal reaction to the messages in a

family way. I've learned as much as I could about the Kerseys of

Guilford County, and I sold a few books to some of your list members. If

they have questions for me, many know my email address. I have your

email address in case something shows up that might interest you or

members of the Kersey list. Keep me in mind if you need any response

from the Ricks side.

I appreciate your hard work and dedication to your ancestors, which benefits those on your list (including me). Not many people are willing to take action such as you have. I encourage you to continue your attitude of service; people don't always acknowledge such contributions of time, energy, and love of family, but they appreciate the fact that there is a leader such as you involved. Let me state for them that you are a valuable leader, and what you are doing will have a measurable impact in the preservation of history for many families.

Do me the honor of posting this message to the list, because I wish that you would see the amount of light you cast.

With appreciation,

Donald M. Ricks

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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:22:07 -0800

Subject: FW: Kersey Coat of Arms Motto

Sent: Saturday, January 10, 1998 2:02 AM

Subject: KERSEY Coat of Arms Motto

I put a plea on the GOONS list and got the following replies!!!

1."Peractus = sharp, shrill

Conamine = probably from the root 'conamen' effort,endeavour.

Today it would most likely translate as 'Hard Worker', or more

romantically as 'Strong Willed'."

2. "Literally translated:

peractio = last act.

conamem = effort, support

The pictorial figure(s) on the device (shield) might give a clue as

to what is meant as there is sometimes a pun or a play on words

involved in the exact translation of the motto?

I will go for "We Kersey's will support you to the end".

3. "May I suggest it should read

"Per actus con anime". Perhaps that might mean something like "By action,

with life"."

4. "Short witted"

5. "Sharp endeavor"

6. "You attempt by doing it"

7. "carried through/completed by/with support/effort"

Take your choice!

I only have a false one through my mothers family! The KEARSEY coat of arms was granted to a nephew of a KERSEY. Before he could inherit a large sum of money, he had to change his name to KEARSEY and take out a Coat of Arms.

I think that line has now died out as they specialised in daughters. One married Baron Redesdale and their children were the infamous MITFORD sisters.

I will try and put that story on the web soon.

Hugh Kearsey