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#1. Kersey:CMD:GET digest36.txt - from Marv Miller
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Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 16:44:12 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: Kersey:CMD:GET digest36.txt Hi folks-- Kersey digest #36 is now available. You can subscribe to the digests by sending email to millerm@halcyon.com with SUBJECT set to "Kersey:CMD:SUBSCRIBE DIGEST" (without the quotes). All of the digests are also available online at http://www.halcyon.com/millerm. Select "Kersey Family List Digests". If you don't have web access, you can get a copy by email, simply by replying to this email without editing the subject line. To get earlier digests by email, edit the 36 in the subject line to the number of the digest you would like, 01 through 35. Remember, one digest file per email request. Marv millerm@halcyon.com http://www.halcyon.com/millerm
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#2. Kersey's in SC - from GenLinda@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:03:45 EDT From: GenLinda@aol.com Subject: Kersey's in SC Marv, I found the story re the family cloth very intersting. I haven't heard anything in my husband's family history remotely similar; however, there are several interesting facts that stand out here -- My husband's Kerseys resided in the Newberry Dist; and Union Co., SC. I don't know if they were Quakers, but William R. Kersey married Sarah Hannah (Cooper) Turner and her COOPERs were Quakers. I have long thought that someone in my mother-in-law's family was a physician or a healer of some sort. My husband's great-grandfather, James Calhoun Kersey, had several very old books which had formulas for salves and medicines to treat different diseases, as well as books containing plants and herbs used in medical remedies. My mother-in-law could mix up natural remedies that helped as well if not better than modern medicine. How I wish I had learned more from her!! DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE BUSH RIVER IS LOCATED IN SOUTH CAROLINA??? Linda
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#3. Re: Kersey family legends! - from BUFFUM2@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 08:31:20 EDT From: BUFFUM2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kersey family legends! I am sure that everyone knew that I was going to put in my two cents worth . I had an experience about family legends that I will never forget. Back in the early 1970's my grandmother ( mothers side ) told me of an Uncle who could tell me all about the Kersey Family. His name was Alvin Williams ( Stephens grandson ). With Tape Recorder, notpad in hand , and grandmother in tow, I went to see Alvin who was at that time 90 years old. He started off with a wonderful story of an orphaned child who was indian, but adopted and raised by a white man named" Kersey " and how the white man educated him to be a doctor. He named names, but couldn't remember dates. I must have stayed with Alvin for the better part of an afternoon. I was completely in awe. Then Alvin came up with the name Pocahontas, and said, " Pocahontas was his aunt", he turned to me and said, " she's your aunt too ". Needless to say, I closed the notepad, and turned off the tape recorder, Bade Alvin farewell, and never saw him again until his funeral seven years later. Well the joke was on me. After years of digging through Census files, ( I, m talking the old hand cranked machines.that would break your neck trying to use them . I'm sure there are a few of you that remember them ) I found that everything that Alvin had told me was the truth! Pocahontas was my aunt. She wasn't THE Pocahontas, but she was Pocahontas Emma, Steven's youngest child. I have since met cousins from South Florida ( where Stephen settled ) They didn't know Alvin, but had and verified the same family stories. One of Stephens granddaughters wrote a book on family stories. One is able to pick the truth out because of Oral stories handed down from generations. I certainly don't discount anything anymore until I have exhausted all means to prove it. The deal with Alvin taught me a lesson. If I ever send anything to the Kersey Line, you can bet on it having been checked out, and documents in hand to prove it! Always write the story ( Legend ) down somewhere. It may come in handy later. Granted I have run across cousins, and family that are very colorful people, and they lye like anything, but listen to them, somewhere in there is the truth. I learned the hard way. Oh the questions that I could ask Alvin now. Especially about the Kersey Cloth. He mentioned that back in the 70's. However there is one cousin who insists that out Kerseys came from Scottland, and he too mentions the cloth. He said, " Nah, granddaddy didn't ride over here with somebody famous, " " he killed a man to get his ticket and came to America in his place ." I have been avoiding him, but do plan to see what he has, if anything on this cloth. The moral is': don't throw the baby out with the bath water. I love family legends. Let's share a few ! Pomp Kersey was a rouge, but he was a legend. We are getting bogged down with just names, dates, etc. We need some warmth to fuel the interest in our line again. This is what genealogy is all about-----FUN. Who knows we might find an ancestor or two. Even the genealogy Chat lines joke, and tell stories every now and then. Sorry to say, but we are getting stale. We don't want to lose the new ones either. by limiting them to a few words. some have a lot to say., Some have already gone. Let's don't loose this Link. Doris Buffum
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#4. Re: Kersey's in SC - from BUFFUM2@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:03:11 EDT From: BUFFUM2@aol.com Subject: Re: Kersey's in SC Linda, when I first read about the cloth, and also the Physician, I immediately went to AOL Net Fine, and typed in Bush River. Can't remember what was on it but I was right in the middle of something exciteing when I got kicked off. Wasn't paying attention to the time frame that pops up every now and then. I remember passing something on to Janas, she might remember. Just type in Bush River, SC. I think that we might be related. Stephen Kersey was a doctor, born in SC. He taught my ggrandfather to gather herbs,etc, and how to heal. On Stephen's way to South Florida, he left my ggrandfather here in Pensacola. Benjamin ( ggrandfather ) married Samantha Harrell, whos family owned a drug store.( Harrells Drug Store chain ) My ggrandfather gathered medecines for the drug store. The drug store is still in business today I would like to know who your family members are. Doris Buffum
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#5. FW: Kersey FAMILY HISTORY - from Marv Miller
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 06:17:20 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: FW: Kersey FAMILY HISTORY ---------- From: BOB TURNER[SMTP:BTURNER@popc.ipa.net] Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 2:24 PM To: millerm@halcyon.com; GenLinda@aol.com Subject: KERSEY FAMILY HISTORY LINDA YOU ASKED ABOUT THE BUSH RIVER: Quaker Church Records. Early Quaker church records for Union County families can be found in the Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy. Information about Union County families can be found in the Bush River and Cane Creek Monthly Meeting records. Bush River Monthly Meeting was formed in Newberry County in 1770, with the following meetings for worship reporting to it: Bush River, Raburn's Creek, Tiger River, Padget's Creek, Mud Lick, Allwoods', White Lick, Edisto, Charleston, and Rocky Springs. Cane Creek Monthly Meeting was formed in Union County in 1789. When many Quaker families migrated northwest during the early 1800s, they took the church records with them. In 1809, the few remaining members of Cane Creek and Bush River Monthly Meetings were joined to the New Garden Quarterly Meeting. Early Quaker Families Quakers entered Union County in the mid 1750s and settled throughout the southern parts of the county, from Cross Keys and Sedalia in the west to what later became known as Santuc and Carlisle in the east. The Quakers established two churches: Padgett's Creek (at Sedalia) and Cane Creek (at Santuc). Many of Union County's Quakers left between 1800 and 1810 and went to Ohio and Indiana because they objected to the large-scale plantation slavery that was being developed. Union County's early Quaker families who left the area included: ROBERDS, WHISTON, ADINGTON, MINTON, DODD, MILHOUSE, HASKIT, NEDERMAN, MARTINDELL, SPRAY, and KENWORTHY. Union County's early Quaker families who remained in Union County, and eventually joined other denominations (Baptist, Methodist), included: the FINCHERs, GISTs, HAWKINS, WILSONs, SARTORs, MOREMANs, and COMERs. Other early Union County Quaker families included: COOK, CLARK, HUNT, LAMB, RANDEL, SMITH, PARNELL, AND HOLLINGSWORTH. BRUSHY CREEK - Stream - 34-36'56"-N; 081-35'04"-W I THINK YOU WILL FIND THE BUSH RIVER MEETING HOUSE WAS IN NEWBERRY COUNTY, S.C. HOPE THIS HELPS BOB T.
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#6. Kersey family in Randolph County Ga Census 1860 - from PETENOEL@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:21:58 EDT From: PETENOEL@aol.com Subject: Kersey family in Randolph County Ga Census 1860 Hi Marv.... Thought the group might be interested in the census record of a Bannister Kersey and family found on microfilm from Randolph County, Cuthbert, Ga 1860. Head of household Bannister Kersey, (63), farmer. Real estate value $4,300. (In those days, that might have been a pretty good spread of land!) Also in the household: Sarah (40) Angenina (24) spelling very uncertain, microfilm hard to read in that spot William (18)...believe this to be my great grandfather Bannister (15) don't know if he is the son or grandson of the Bannister head of household. Joseph (13) Nancy (12) Cornelia (8) Cynthia (5) Head of household Bannister is either my gg or ggg grandfahter. Anyone who has links to this family I would dearly love to know about it. Tnx...Pete Noel@aol.com Pete Kersey.
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#7. Kersey:CMD: - from Bill Kersey
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:05:30 -0400 From: Bill Kersey <bkersey@uky.campus.mci.net> Subject: Kersey:CMD: Dear Marv, My early June story about the MAcKersey clan , the woolen cloth, and the three Kersey brothers coming to America with Wm Penn has apparently generated a lot of interest. I acquired a hand written copy of this story about 10 years ago and have lost track of the person who gave it to me. He was not a Kersey but had obtained the document from a descendant of the Hunt, Woolman , Kersey family. A thousand apologies for violating the cardinal rule of genealogy that all facts must be documented , but I thought that this tale was too good to keep to myself. Perhaps there is some element of truth along with a lot of conjecture . A well documented fact is that there is a clan MacKersey , which is a sept of the Ferguson clan. The clan crest features a boar's head. Yes, the town of Kersey, in Suffolk, does probably go back to Pre-Norman times so that it would have not been named for the 17th Century MacKersey people. Some early Kersey families were Quakers in Pennsylvania - the most famous was the renowned preacher Jesse Kersey of Pennsylvania . More about him in a later message. I have some photographs of Kersey, Suffolk, England - it is a beautiful village with thatched roof houses and a "watersplash" across the main street. There is also a cathedral showing in one of the pictures. " The Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames " lists Kersey as a parish in County Suffolk , near HAdleigh . It mentions a Selvestre de Kereseye , Co Suffolk, in 1273 and a Robert de Kersy . " The Surnames of Ireland " - " Keirsey, Kiersey, Kearsey, Ciarasach, and de Ce'arsaigh -- Norman toponymic came to County Waterford in 13th Century and been ther ever since." .
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#8. Savanah Adeline Kersey - from Julia Kersey Brewer
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:58:43 -0500 From: Julia Kersey Brewer <juliab@flash.net> Subject: Savanah Adeline Kersey Does anyone have info on Savanah Adeline Kersey m. George Green Stockman around 1900.Children from this union: Savanah Mae Andrew (Bill) Walter Lenna Vie Ome Prebble Horthey Katie Thank you, Julia
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#9. Kersey: Archived Notes? - from PATRICIA A HENRY
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:14:37, -0500 From: EFPV77B@prodigy.com (PATRICIA A HENRY) Subject: Kersey: Archived Notes? Marv, Are the messages from our Kersey List archived somewhere? I don't like to miss any of the messages during vacation times in the summer. and leaving them in my mailbox doesn't work too well, because they age off after a certain length of time. I don't know a whole lot about the Digest mode if I changed to that during vacation times. Would you enlighten me? Thanks Pat EFPV77B@prodigy.com
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#10. FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY - from Marv Miller
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:52:48 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY ---------- From: PETENOEL@aol.com[SMTP:PETENOEL@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 10:25 AM To: millerm@halcyon.com Subject: KERSEY, ISLE OF SKY Hi Marv and group..... My father insists that one of our ancestors, Bannister Kersey, married a Lady Margaret of Isle of Sky. Does anyone know of a Kersey connection to such a place and where is it? Pete Noel@aol.com Pete Kersey
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#11. James D. Kersey - from Mary Ann Smith
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:20:36 -0400 From: Mary Ann Smith <masroots@pineland.net> Subject: James D. Kersey Marv, Yes this is the James D. Kersey from Emanuel/Johnson County. He was my great-great grandfather. His father was John Kersey and his mother was Mary Burris. Family Bible records state he was born January 13, 1831. If you have any more information I sure would appreciate it. I am just learning genealogy and the internet, so help me! Mary Ann Smith
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#12. Re: Kersey:CMD: - from HTC113@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 14:54:45 EDT From: HTC113@aol.com Subject: Re: Kersey:CMD: Dear Marv: Does anyone on line have any information on the Hiram Kersey, who is in the Marion County, Tenn. in 1830 or 1840. I need to know how many children that were in this family. Can anyone help me????????? I know that he is listed in DeKalb Co. Ala. in 1850 living by himslef. He is living in Jackson Co. Ala. in 1870. He is listed with people in the 1870 census. My question is the 39 year old named Mary, born is Va. who is keeping house. This must be his second wife, and a Joseph age 17, born in Ala. and a Matilda ONeal who is 24 years old and living with them. I would appreciate any help> Thank You Troy Carlile in Tulsa
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#13. FW: Kersey 1790 NY census Dutchess Co pg 89c - from Marv Miller
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 15:01:35 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: FW: Kersey 1790 NY census Dutchess Co pg 89c ---------- From: Frendlysky@aol.com[SMTP:Frendlysky@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 1998 12:53 PM To: millerm@halcyon.com Subject: 1790 NY census Dutchess Co pg 89c 1st # free white males 16 year upwards and head of families 2nd # free white males under 16 years 3rd # free white females and head of families 4th # all other free persons 5th # slaves Philipstown Kearse,Henry, 3,0,1,0,0
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#14. Kersey Cloth - from JANASM@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:22:28 EDT From: JANASM@aol.com Subject: Kersey Cloth Hello, This message was sent to me today and I thought that some might find it interesting...Message as follows: 1627-47 When the sun baked Peasant goes to feast it, with a gentleman, he washes, and brushes, and kersies himself in his holy day cloathes. Historically----the evidence is in favor of the name being of English origin; caersige was the OE. from of Kersey in Suffolk . Kersey's ( anything made of the cloth ) were important English exports in 1390. Drape de Kersy is mentioned along with other frabrics names from places in 1399. In early dates, the name appears as; Cariz, Caris and after 1453 it is common as ; Kersey, Kaersay, Carcey, Karsaai, and is found in Germany as kirsei, Kirschei, and as Da.Kersei, Kersei, and as Kersing. The spelling of the name in older families can be found as CARISEA. It has never been proven that the original Manufacture of the Fabric , Kersey, was connected with the Village of Suffolk. ( which in my opinion, could have been first made in Scottland ) Which leads Bills story to have some credence. In the 16-17th century Kerseys are commonly contrasted with cloths or broad- cloth. The size was fixed by statute of 1465 as 24 yards, long and 2 wide, while Kersey was on 18 yards long and a yard, and a nail in width. The act of 1552 enumerates various kinds of Kersey's, as ordinary, sorting, Devonshire ( means dozens ) and check Kerseys, and fixes thier length as between 16 and 17 yds. 1618--there are three Kerseys reckoned as equal to one cloth. Down through the centuries there were great demands of anything made of the Kersey Cloth, anything made from the cloth was known as a Kersey, ( or the various spelling of the Name ) Armies were outfitted with Kersey's, there were stockings, suits, petticoats, etc. made from Kersey Janas
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#15. FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY - from Marv Miller
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 07:19:23 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY ---------- From: Will Samland[SMTP:willsamland@email.msn.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 1998 10:35 PM To: Kersey List Subject: Re: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY From: PETENOEL@aol.com[SMTP:PETENOEL@aol.com] >Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 10:25 AM >To: millerm@halcyon.com >Subject: KERSEY, ISLE OF SKY > >Hi Marv and group..... > >My father insists that one of our ancestors, Bannister Kersey, married a Lady >Margaret of Isle of Sky. Does anyone know of a Kersey connection to such a >place and where is it? > >The Isle of Sky or simply Sky is a large island on the west coast of Scotland. Will
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#16. Kersey:CMD: - from Bill Kersey
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:13:31 -0400 From: Bill Kersey <bkersey@uky.campus.mci.net> Subject: Kersey:CMD: Some possible sources of the surname Kersey : 1.0 "The Early Surnames of Scotland " records that a group (clan?) called " Kerse " lived in the Western Border Country of Scotland in 586 A.D. This would include Ayrshire, Dumfries, and Galloway I believe. The time would be post Roman and within the time span of the invasion of the area by the " Scotti " from Northern Ireland. 2.0 "The Early Surnames of Ireland " lists Kearse, Keirsey, Kiersey, and Kearsey as as surnames from the place names Ciarasach or de Cearsaigh ". It states that this is a Norman toponymic come to County Waterford in the 13th Century and been there ever since. 3.0 " The British Scene " states that the Celtic origins of many Cornishmen are noticeable in their dark hair and complexions and their Cornish place names with their prefixes like Tre, Ros, Pol, LAn, Pen, and Caer . ". " The Cornish language was pure Celtic ". Is it possible that the Ciar or Cear prefix was also of Celtic origin and that the place name of Ciarasagh was a pre- Anglo Saxon Celtic name for the Suffolk village of Kersey ? Can some Kersey historian in England help clarify this ? 4.0 Another source ( I have lost the name ) says that Kerse is now a rare Border name and had its local origin from the place ( village ?) named Kerse which is located near Grangemouth, Scotland. The latter is a village located on the Firth of Forth near Bo'ness and Linlithgow , west of Edinburgh. 5.0 The great Scottish poet Sir Walter Scott reportedly mentions a contemporary fisherman named "Kerse of Ayr " in an early Nineteenth Century poem. Can someone identify this poem ? " Rab Kerse o' the Trows " was called "that prince of a waterman " by Sir Hubert MAxwell . Also a David Kerse was a Burgess of Linlithgow in 1472. 6.0 According to Woodwards " A Treatise on Heraldry " the predominant names in the Southern Counties of Scotland are still Scott, Kers, Elliott, Johnstone, and Maxwell. It says that these families were once "Reivers ". 7.0 The above information is offered without any claim that any of it is related to our common surname of " Kersey " . I hope that it will be of some general interest and that it may encourage others to do some similar research and share that information .. Sincerely, Billy R. ( Bill ) Kersey of Ashland, KY. Let us hear from our cousins in Great Britain, Please.
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#17. FW: Kersey: Archived Notes? - from Marv Miller
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 10:45:01 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: FW: Kersey: Archived Notes? Hi Pat-- Yes, all the Kersey list messages are archived on my web page: http://www.halcyon.com/millerm. Just click on "Kersey Family List Digests". There is also a page of links to other Kersey researchers and an item which has so far met with resounding silence: The Kersey Web Ring. For those who have your own web pages you can join a web ring devoted to the Kersey family! By the way, there are close to 2000 Kerseys listed on my page now -- please check it out. All additions or corrections gratefully accepted. Marv millerm@halcyon.com http://www.halcyon.com/millerm ---------- From: PATRICIA A HENRY[SMTP:EFPV77B@prodigy.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 1998 5:00 PM To: millerm@halcyon.com Subject: Kersey: Archived Notes? Marv, Are the messages from our Kersey List archived somewhere?
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#18. RE: Bannister Kersey family in Randolph County Ga Census 1860 - from Marv Miller
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:49:27 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: RE: Bannister Kersey family in Randolph County Ga Census 1860 Hi Pete-- Bannister is an unusual first name so there might be a connection: FTM Census Index CD#317 U.S. Selected Counties 1850 Kersey, Banister State : FL County : Jefferson Co. Year : 1850 Page # : 020 Kersey, Banister State : FL County : Jefferson Co. Year : 1850 Page # : 467 Census type code : Slave Schedule Marv millerm@halcyon.com http://www.halcyon.com/millerm ---------- From: PETENOEL@aol.com[SMTP:PETENOEL@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 9:21 AM To: millerm@halcyon.com Subject: Kersey family in Randolph County Ga Census 1860 Hi Marv.... Thought the group might be interested in the census record of a Bannister Kersey and family found on microfilm from Randolph County, Cuthbert, Ga 1860.
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#19. Re: Kersey Cloth - from BHP32743@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:06:16 EDT From: BHP32743@aol.com Subject: Re: Kersey Cloth I found a comment on the Kersey cloth on site www.ancestry.com. Their records on "Immigration of Irish Quakers into Pennsylvania" had a story wherein a plantation owner was looking for a run-away Irish servant. He was described and much was said about his clothing. One article of clothing was "a brownish Kersey coat.
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#20. FW: FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY - from Marv Miller
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:13:28 -0700 From: Marv Miller <millerm@halcyon.com> Subject: FW: FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY ---------- From: Frendlysky@aol.com[SMTP:Frendlysky@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 21, 1998 8:20 PM To: millerm@halcyon.com Subject: Re: FW: Kersey, ISLE OF SKY In a message dated 98-06-21 10:26:19 EDT, you write: << > >The Isle of Sky or simply Sky is a large island on the west coast of Scotland. >> the Isle of Skye not picky just correction Alice