Silver Lake Association - Lake Information
| Date & Subject | Person Contacted | Silver lake Association Member | Contents |
| 5/2003 | Jack Nedland | Holly Branch Kelly |
Jack said that people are justifiably concerned about the tree loss around Silver, but he does not see that issue as the real problem. He believes that people are just not aware of the severe and irreversible consequences of the high nutrient levels caused by the flooding. One environmental purpose of the wetlands that surround the lake is to leech and hold the nutrients from the lake water. When the high water covered the wetlands, the nutrients stored there were released into the lake water. Another source of high nutrient levels comes from the high water pulling the nutrients from the banks and yards around the lake. This abnormally high level of nutrients has caused an acceleration of the eutrophication of the lake by hundreds and hundreds of years. Eutrophication is a term that is used to describe the aging process of a lake. New lakes are fresh and clean and clear, but older lakes are dirty with a lot of algae and other growth. The flooding of Silver Lake has caused abnormally high levels of nutrients, which has propelled the age of the lake forward by centuries. Even when the lake level lowers, the damage from the accelerated eutrophication cannot be reversed. I think the people of the SLA need to know this information. It makes a very compelling argument to take immediate action to lower the lake level. |
| 1/25/03 | Jack Nedland | Bob Filmore |
To: Board Members of The Silver Lake Association
I talked to Jack Nedland of the Parks and Forest Committee this morning. Bill Carothers who owns the site of the plug dam has asked the County for a temporary hold on the dam. M. Ness has threatened to sue for seven acres by adverse possession. Bill has asked his lawyer to write Ness and give him a time limit to sue or not. Jack Nedland said that he hoped to haul in the rock and materials for the dam in maybe six weeks. He said the beaver dam is still holding back about four feet of water from lake Sylvan.I asked Jack to keep me informed. I will check again in six weeks. I think it is important to get the plug dam built to keep Silver Lake clean. I will mail a copy of this to Ossie. |
| 10/23/02 | Bob Wellhoefer | Steve Walker | I don't think this is the forum [talking about the State DNR Board Meeting] for us to present , at least not yet. There are channels to go through and we have not yet put together a study that can be presented on this level. The one thing that I intend to discuss with some DNR officials is the letter that was written to the board by a DNR employee in Cumberland it is unfair and I think unprofessional for an opinion to be rendered in the name of the DNR before any facts have been presented or a solution proposed. They have a duty to respond, but not at this phase of the project. The Barron County Forestry Committee will be meeting in a week or two. Jack has not gotten back to me with a date. This is the time to request their financial participation in the study. As soon as I know the date I will make arrangements to attend. It is my feelings that the committee will accept a 50/50 cost split proposal. How does the SLA feel about this and would you authorize me to offer that. I will get back to you as soon as I have more details |
| 09/20/02 | Ruth Anderson | Ruth has posted her comments - check them out by clicking on this; Ruth Anderson Comments | |
| 7/16/02 | Cedar Corp Engineering Firm | Bob Wellhoefer | I talked with Bruce Trimble who indicated that Cedar Corporation is ready to make a presentation. Bruce gave me the name of Gary Nyseth, from Cedar Corp. called Gary and talked with him, explaining that SEH has made a presentation to Barron County and that he should get in touch with Ole Severud to set up a Cedar Corp presentation to the Barron county board. I explained that the Barron County board will select an engineering firm and attempt to initiate whatever project is recommended by that company. We as an association are completing our initial commitment to Barron County, by drafting a SLA Petition of Interest, and we are completing gathering the majority of lake owner's signatures. When the signatures have been obtained, the petition will be delivered to Ole and Barron County. Gary has indicated that his company has put together some materials, and is going to send some electronic copies to me. He is also going to let us know when the presentation to Barron County will be so that we can have some attendance by the Silver Lake Association Board. |
| 7/12/02 | Barron Health Dept. | Bob Wellhoefer |
I talked today with Laura from the Health Department in
Barron, the group that does the water testing on Silver. Laura stated
that they test weekly for Coliform (sp?) bacteria and the lake tested
bad on June 26th, right after the heavy rains. They retested the lake on
the 27th and 28th and the water tested out safe. They have continued to
test the lake on a weekly basis and it continues to test safe.
I also talked to Dan Harrington yesterday, and he
confirmed that they believe that the heavy rains and runoff caused the
bad reading. When I expressed concerns about septic systems backing up
into Silver, and asked him if there was any way we could get this
checked out, his answer was rather cavalier, which I didn't appreciate
at all. He stated that there was nothing that could be done, and any
septic systems that were washing into Silver Lake were probably not in
compliance anyway. When I asked him how septic systems could go in
without compliance inspections, he made reference to the fact that "most
of them probably went in illegally, on some Sunday night by flashlight
at midnight." When I told him that I thought that was a moot
point, he didn't have a comment, nor did he have any suggestions for
trying to enforce compliance or even testing. At any rate, I got
the impression that he will be little or no help in getting this matter
researched resolved. Another frustration. Finally, the person who
does the weekly testing is Nancy Drake, and she can be reached at (715)
537-6502
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| 7/12/02 | Personal Commentary | Kurt Jacobson | I'm spending the week at Silver and it's been very quiet. The high water, while a curse for many and an issue for the lake itself, is also a bit of a blessing in that boat traffic is way down due to the difficulty in launching a boat. I investigated the "dam" above the lake on Tues and a little water is coming in, just a trickle. I couldn't help but think that back in the 30's the people who made the decision to change nature and bring water into the lake - are not all that different from the thoughts of our generation in wishing to devise a way to get water out of the lake. Will some future generation, either on Silver Lake, or in some other locale that could be affected by our efforts today, be smiling at our folly someday, just as we have regarding this action back 70 years ago? Is it wise to try to control nature? Back in the high water days of 1966 there were similar voices expressed as in 2002. But only 6 years later the lake was several feet lower and I recall a Jeep driving from the park along the shoreline on the east side of the lake - up to the area where the Ostrems are. Amazing how nature can give and take away the water. Might we be wise to let nature have its way? |
| 7/10/02 | County Board | Bob Wellhoefer | The board met with a representative of SEH on Saturday, June 29th. That person presented a detailed plan for how to drain the lake using a gravity method and installing a pipe on the SW corner of the lake. We are still waiting for a representative of Cedar Corp. to get back to us with a plan/presentation. The SEH representative also met with Ollie Severrud (sp?) of the Barron County Parks board. Ozzie met with Ollie Severrud (sp) of the Barron County Parks board on Wednesday July 3rd. Ollie stated that Silver Lake is the crown jewel of their lakes and it is in trouble, so they would very much be in support of the SEH plan, or any other feasible plan to get Silver Lake back to normal. Ollie also stated that they have budget for it, so they could probably pick up a majority of the tab, the rest to be paid by SLA owners. But he stated that he needs some sort of written or obvious commitment from SLA owners. The board then drafted a SLA Petition of interest and went around the lake to get lake owners signatures. The petition says that we the undersigned are interested in working with the County Board to explore ways to get the lake level down. A few more signatures need to be collected and then this will go to the county board. We need to have Cedar Corp make a presentation to the County board, the county board will then select an engineering firm to work with and will come to the membership (fall meeting?) with a presentation and allow us to vote on it. We will provide proxies for those who can't make the meeting to get 100% input. |
| 7/1/02 | County Board Officials
Engineering Firm? |
Ozzie Ostrem
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Ozzie reported that he had talked to the county board and was told that we needed to be certain a majority of the lake owners wanted the county to be involved in some sort of a solution to the lake water levels. As a result, a petition is being circulated for all to sign requesting county assistance. An engineering firm has told Bob that there is a way to drain off water from Silver Lake and has given Bob some of the details that would be necessary. They suggested it may cost about $100,000 to do the actual work but it may also cost about $100,000 to get the proper county and state approvals required. The Engineering firm contact suggested that we work through the county to get them to request bids for the project. |
| 5/29/02 | Randy Books & Jack Nedland (DNR) | David Harens |
I did spend some time on the phone with Randy Books as suggested at our meeting, and also Jack Nedland. Randy told me that he was moving toward submitting a request by June 1 (although he seemed to be saying "if I can get it done by then"). He was somewhat negative on our expectations that this was in any way a solution to our problem. He re-enforced the fact that it was only a request for funds to build a plan and any plan would take multiple years to implement. I then spoke with Jack N. and he was quite negative about our ability (or need) to solve the lake level problem. I am summarizing his points and mine below: 1. The lake goes up and down and this is just a normal occurrence - it will go back down before we could ever fix the problem......My point to him was the lake has never been this high and real damage is being incurred by his county residents now. 2. Doing anything of the scope we are discussing (exit water to the south or stop input from the north) would take years to accomplish because of the required studies, approvals, etc. - Shell lake has had the problem for 10 years and although they have raised some funds, they still have no approval to do anything......My point to him was we have no assurance that the water will go down - only hope - therefore we need to assume it will not and get going on it. As taxpayers in trouble, we are looking for his support, ideas, advice, not resistance. 3. It is his belief that there is not a lot of water coming in from the north and a study they did last year suggested only a very few gallons per hour were moving in under the bridge. He talked about the beaver bridge not allowing water to pass......My point was any study done last year had to be done after the water had already risen to record level. (I have been on the beaver dam and am suspicious that the beaver dam held any amount of water back) 4. He is not personally interested in doing anything within his budget to help rectify the fact that the park is not usable today by county people. He first said it was not a county responsibility, but later amended that to saying he thought the water would come down and that would be a sufficient fix for the problem......My point to him was that "we are the county" and we want him to be concerned and to help us fix any park problem. I also told him that we pay incredible taxes with little or no services to match. 5. He told me our taxes are fare - based on the value of the property and are primarily used for school funding......My point to him is that most of us purchased the property when value and taxes were 1/5 of today, most will not sell the property and therefore the "value" is meaningless, and most of us have no kids in there school systems. We are not complaining about that, but then when we do ask for help, we do expect some consideration. (The county ought to be treating us as "most favored customers" and when there is an opportunity to assist, they should jump at the chance to help us) 6. He told me the only way to get any help was to present a proposal to the county board and none has yet been presented......My point to him was we did not know what to propose and would love some help in funding a small effort to assess the situation. Maybe the county would increase his budget (because of the park impact) and he could use that money to work with us to build a proposal. I told him that I would expect him to initiate that kind of request. (requesting additional funds to me would be a normal part of his job - protecting county assets) 7. He did tell me that the county is interested in closing the dam that has broken up north - but not for water volume issues, but for water quality issues. I am copying Jack on this note and by so doing, am soliciting his response or corrections if I have not interpreted his position correctly on any of the above. |
| 5/30/02
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Jack Nedland Response | David Harens | Response note to
Dave Harens from Jack Nedland
Dave, I did find a few statements to comment on, see below: point 3. My point on the beaver dam was that there was very little water flow through the diversion ditch all of last year not just after the lake had reached high levels, but also during the rise. The rise in Silver lakes level should not in any way be attributed to the diversion ditch. Not all of the water which flows into Sliver Lake at the culverts comes from the diversion ditch, there are normal drainages here also.Your assertion that the old beaver dam did not hold water is false. I have photos from last summer showing water being held. point 4. I have no money in my budget for any of the "studies' you are talking about. The way you get money into my budget or any other co. budget is to convince the Barron County Board to place the money there, departments do not create money for expenditures. You are right that you are part of Barron County, But remember that the Silver Lake "community" is only a small part of the county. Your assertion that you pay high taxes has no bearing on the operation of my departments. point 5. I said nothing about weather or not your taxes are fair - I said your taxes are appropriate for your evaluation as determined by assessor. I do not set taxes and I will not argue as to their fairness. This needs to be done at the Township level. Good Luck Jack |