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“The Flying Fisherman” Carlyle Lake, Illinois Close Encounter of 1999

Preliminary Report by Craig R. Lang, MS CHt

 

Type of Report:  Close Encounter of the Fourth Kind, with corroborating evidence.

Date of Report:  26 July, 2002.  Revised 7 July, 2003.

Investigator:   Craig R. Lang, MS CHt.  

(Note: The witness/experiencer has given written permission to me to describe this encounter, on condition of anonymity)

 

Date of Sighting: October 28, 1999

Place of Sighting:  Upper Carlyle Lake in Illinois

Local Evaluation:  Apparent Close Encounter of the Fourth Kind, unexplained

 

 

Sighting Background

The witness, who will be referred to as “The Flying Fisherman” or “FF” (his alias on Abduction Forums on the internet), is retired, and is an avid fisherman.  He initially contacted me in 2000, regarding the events in question.  He subsequently sent me an early copy of his narrative entitled “From Out of Nowhere”, describing an apparent series of strange encounters he had undergone during the summer and fall of 1999. At that time I recommended John Carpenter as a possible CE4 hypnotherapist/CE4-researcher. 

 

FF contacted me again in 2002, regarding the possibility of doing a close encounter regression.  He further described his events to me and sent me an updated copy of his narrative which he had been updating.  We arranged to meet for a session in April of 2002.

 

FF often takes his boat onto various lakes in search of new fishing spots.  He carries a GPS receiver on his boat, which helps him to subsequently locate fishing sites.   He often records times and locations, and frequently maps his lake-borne travels, using the continuously recorded coordinates and a mapping program. 

Overall, he has discerned the following events:

*    May 13, 1999 on Lake of the Ozarks

*    October 14, 1999 on Lake of the Ozarks

*    October 28, 1999 on Carlyle Lake (this report)

 

Following the 5/13/1999 fishing trip, FF was aware that a strange event had occurred during that trip.  He remembered what seemed to be an instantaneous translation of his boat of about 200 yards from one location on the lake to another.  Curious, he investigated over the following year and learned that a period of missing time – as well as some significant anomalies - was associated with the translation.  Times related to this event were recorded on his GPS receiver but unfortunately, the actual GPS trail was not saved for this event.  [CL Note: Details of this event and his investigation are not included here, but may be described in a future report.]

 

During August of 2000, while mapping the locations of his October 28, 1999 Lake Carlyle fishing trip using his GPS recordings, he noticed an anomalous GPS trail on the map.  Seeing this triggered a memory of a missing time event (which is the topic of this report).  He subsequently examined other GPS traces, and discovered an additional anomaly, the October 14th 1999 event.  He was thus aware of the three events listed above.

 

In the spring of 2002, we conducted a weekend-long intensive series of hypnotic sessions during which the experiences described in this report emerged.  We chose the Lake Carlyle event because of the high degree of anomalousness of the GPS trail.  The remainder of this report describes the Carlyle Lake event of October 28, 1999.

 


Pre-Session Account of Event:

The following is the account of the Carlyle Lake Event, as described in this excerpt from FF’s personal narrative:

 

Up to this time I had been reasonably sure that if I had been abducted it was only once. However, while doing some work on the GPS trails for fishing I got another shock. I had found a way to put the trails on my map program. The map of upper Carlyle Lake had an odd pattern on it, a rapidly moving curve that takes me over the railroad track and back! As I looked at it, I remembered that when I had gone under the bridge I had stopped and opened a map. What I had seen was that there were many stumps sticking out of the water and I needed to find the main channel and as much as possible follow it. Suddenly, without any memory of getting there, I found myself well into the lake section going in the wrong direction. I was quite confused. I remember waving my hands up and down. Because I was unsure, as to what side of the bridge I was on. I got the map out again and a compass straightened myself out and inexplicably proceeded to suppress the seemingly sudden position change. I then got back to exploring and fishing the area. The date was October 28, 1999. This date came from my fishing log. This is the only time I fished in this area of Carlyle Lake in a boat.

 I do not remember anything about the trip over the tracks, which requires the boat to be airborne! When I looked at the trail on the map the memory of the position change came back as if unlocking a safe and seeing a long forgotten item. As time went by, I remembered more details of the position change.

The degree on confusion and disorientation is reflected in what I did. A compass is not needed on the north side of Carlyle’s railroad bridge. All one has to do is to line the map up with the bridge. I should have known what side of the bridge I was on by the many stumps sticking above the water. How someone can suppress an event of this magnitude I do not know but in several of the cases I have read about this is exactly what happens. As in these incidents, it took many months or over a year before something jarred my memory.

Carlyle Lake GPS Trail

 

The dotted lines on this and the next map are actual GPS points imported from the GPS program. I do not think that the two-dimensional trail gives a correct picture.  I think that the start of the curve is on the ground and the end of it is high in the air and the slight undulating pattern of the curve seems to indicate that the boat was spiraling as it went upward.

 

 Photo of the Bridge and Railroad

 

The trees extend most of the way to Keyesport. The GPS trail path must have been higher than the trees. The first leg of the curve probably went over the trees shown or close to them. Note the size of the boats in comparison to the bridge.


FF’s Pre-Hypnotic Analysis of Events:

The witness/experiencer has done extensive research into these events since the time he discovered them.  The following is an excerpt from his narrative describing his conclusions:

 

Obvious Questions

To answer obvious questions, I remember clearly that at no time while I have been fishing have I ever had any periods of confusion, dizziness, or other symptoms out side of the three position changes. In the three incidents, I found myself in another location there was certainly some confusion but I quickly reoriented and went about normal tasks, fishing in two cases and helping the three people in the boat in the other.

A Not So Obvious Question

It may be normal to reorient and then go about normal tasks but it is not normal to forget completely an event as unusual as these were. The first one where I helped three people in a boat was remembered. I could not recall the other two until I was reminded by the GPS trails. Then and then only was I able to recall the events and the details surrounding them.

In the first incident, I remembered the position change, but suppressed the evidence of a time loss. Until, that is, I called the Phone Company and got the time and date of the phone call, then I began to recall all the things I had seen that should have made me realize that there was a time loss. At the time, that I first realized there was a time loss I blamed myself for ignoring the evidence. Now, however, I am not sure that I am completely responsible. I certainly did not want to believe that there was a time loss but it seems that it took a record in all these cases to jar the memories loose. There are many unpleasant events in my life that I can easily recall. Therefore, I can only believe that this is one more example of mind tampering on the part of the abductors.

Not the Desired Conclusion

I was not hoping to find more evidence of possible abductions but I would rather have truth than avoid facing it. These made me angry. My fishing was interrupted and it is possible that the presence of whatever was responsible for these position changes and time losses affect the fish. I did not catch a single fish on those days. Okay, Okay maybe that’s just another excuse.

What displeases me the most is the fact that these things, which happened to me, were out of my control, with out my permission, and my memory of them was taken from me. I want to know what happened during those missing times. No, I am not positive they were abductions. If they were not, I want to know what they were. Not some guess but for sure, if that is possible. If they were, I want to know just what went on and I think that is possible. After that, I am looking for some action or method to stop this type of thing from happening to others and myself. First, I need to understand what these things or beings are.  [FF Note:  Since writing this I have recalled two memory images that make me very sure that these were abductions. See Memory Image Analysis below.]

I have to be very careful to look at all the facts. As I get the facts, the conclusions, theories and speculation may change. That is the way it is when one is looking for truth. When our minds are made up, we tend to ignore new facts that could get in the way of our conclusions. The time to make up our minds is when new facts consistently continue to confirm the conclusion.

For many years I used to joke about the “little men” on the UFO’s I’d say, “I have an agreement with them. I do not bother them and they do not bother me.” I never expected to be abducted nor did I ever wish to be.

Memory Analysis:  Locked or blocked memories

Even though I might have been motivated to suppress some memories as noted above I find a strange pattern in what, at first, I could not remember.

1.      In the first incident at the Lake of the Ozarks where I towed the boat the incident was too strong to suppress or forget, however I could not remember any details that would show that there was a time loss.

2.      In the next two incidents, I could not remember anything of the position changes or the thoughts or reactions to them.

3.      When these memories were unlocked or the blocks by passed by the phone call and GPS trails, then everything came back as if I had never forgotten them.

 

What I suspect is that if these were abductions then the abductors had something to do with blocking these memories. [Based on what I have learned and recalled since writing this, I am now sure that the aliens do affect memory in abductees]

Or is it something else?

In David M. Jacobs’, book The Threat, I found a new term, “blank.” The alien tells the abductee that they will insert a blank in their minds. I wondered if this was something like erasing a file. All that is erased is the name of the file. When recovering these I found that the first letter had been replaced with a question mark. I realized that if I changed the name by removing one letter or inserting a space that all the shortcuts and other means of locating the file would be of no use. The only way I could find the file would be to either search or find it in the folder. It would seem then all they have to do is insert a blank space in the path to the memory and then replace it at the next abduction. This encourages me to try again to recover the memories. Unless they wipe them when they are through with a person and they could be through with me.

Memory Image Analysis

One of ways in which we remember is mental images of what we saw. However, we need to distinguish between mental images of what we actually saw and images that we created in our minds. For instance, I have two images of what happened at the second Lake of the Ozarks incident. One is from my view as I see myself straightening up, looking around, seeing the scenery, and realizing it had changed. This total mental video is from my viewpoint. I have another image of myself doing the same thing but from a near by viewpoint. I call this a “descriptive image” or visualization of what actually happened but from a viewpoint other than my own eyes. This is basically the same thing as talking about an event. We certainly do not commentate about an event as it occurs. However, later we do.

Other types of mental images are visualizations of anything we might be thinking about, anticipating what might occur, or what things might be like. Dream images are another. For me it is usually not hard to distinguish between the different types, although there are some that seem to fall into a gray area. In remembering something important such as these incidents or memories that relate to witness testimony, we have to be very careful to distinguish between memory images.


Hypnotic Session Results Summary:

I conducted four sessions with FF on the weekend of April 6/7, 2002.  The first session was an intake interview, in which in a non-hypnotic state, we explored his past, his psychological makeup, and the details of his life, both in his past and at the present.  Given the nature of the Carlyle lake event, in which the GPS trails are the most anomalous, we decided to focus on that time period.

 

The second session – in which hypnosis was initially used – involved the following planned steps:

1)     Initial induction of trance.

2)     The creation and anchoring of a mental/emotional “safe place” which could be invoked during the regression, should the need arise.

3)     A return to the event in question, to repeatedly pass through the event, in order to cleanly recall the material.

 

The actual events which occurred during the second session were somewhat different, however.  During the initial induction, we discovered that FF had a very strong critical faculty and did not easily stay in trance.  His is very intelligent with a highly analytical mind - and, in spite of a number of hypnotic techniques, he often found himself analyzing the situation.  We thus changed techniques from standard regressive hypnotherapy to that of the cognitive interview, as described in the MUFON Field Investigators’ Manual. 

 

As we began the initial “safe-place” procedure, FF found himself in another apparent CE4 event, of which he had not previously been aware.  We briefly explored this event, and then began to explore the Carlyle Lake event.

 

A standard technique used for regression work, when blocks are present, is simply to have the client repeat the account, in an ever deepening trance [CL Note:  Comments by the therapist are generally limited to prompting instructions such as “Please continue”, “What is happening now?”, “What are you experiencing?”, hypnotic deepening/positioning instructions, etc. - with references to the event content being avoided wherever possible].  As we continued, the material surrounding the missing time became extremely detailed and very consistent, while the content of the missing time interval apparently still remained blocked.

 

Late in the first hypnotic session, the block apparently broke.  FF then described himself as ascending, boat and all, at a shallow angle.  The remainder of the account is summarized from the three hypnotic sessions as follows:

*    He and his boat were apparently drawn up into a waiting object, passing through the solid material of the object’s underside.

*    They thus entered into the object’s underside, apparently a shallow bowl-shaped interior region.

*    He was met there by one or more entities.

*    He was escorted from the central “bowl” into an examination room and given the typical medical examination as described in the “Hopkins/Jacobs” type of CE4.

*    He was then returned to his boat, and seated in it.

*    The floor beneath the boat then opened down, into a ramp configuration.

*    The boat was then shoved down the ramp – during which FF heard a scraping sound.  There was at least one entity on either side of the boat, holding the gunwales as they moved him down the ramp.

*    The boat, with FF in it was then sent off of the ramp, descending in a controlled fall, to land in the water about ¼ mile from his original location where his original memory resumed.

 

[CL Note:  Upon reviewing this article, FF noted the following: 

The area of the ramp was dark, so I could not see clearly.  I remember looking to the left and seeing what appeared to be two grays. There could have been more but that is all I can remember. I am assuming that there were an equal number on the other side. The boat with trailer weighs about 1200 pounds, so we have about 800 pounds of boat. They only needed to slide it and I don’t know how strong they are or how much the ramp slanted down. The scraping sound seems to indicate that it was not easy to get it started. ]

 

Subsequent Discoveries:

Following the hypnotic session, FF checked the underside of his boat, and found scrape marks in the exact spots in which he recalled during trance, having heard the scraping sounds. 

 [CL Note:  On 9/2/02, FF sent me this addition/correction:

"what happened is that I remembered hearing the scrape during the regression and decided to contact you about the possibility of some material from the craft being on the bottom of the boat. The sound was heard in what was probably a confined area of the UFO and I could not possibly pinpoint the exact spot. What I did was to search the bottom of the boat as carefully as I could. I found several areas that could have contacted the ramp if the back of the boat was lifted. Only one of these had any visible material that was different from the paint on the boat. In looking the boat from the side, it appeared that if the rear was lifted that the spot where I found the material would be the spot that would contact a flat surface. I am not sure as to how you would change the statement. Here is a suggestion: 

"After remembering hearing the scraping sound, FF checked the underside of his boat and found material at a raised area near the front of the boat that would have contacted the ramp if the boat had been lifted from the rear or when the boat went over the edge of the ramp."

My commendations go to FF, on his discerning eye.  In my view, this confirms to me his credibility as a witness.  I am including his above comments verbatim, as an update to this report.]

The following photographs, taken by FF, show the location on the boat where the scrapes occurred.

 

Substance on keel:

The following photographs describe possible physical evidence found on the keel of the boat, in the bow area, which FF described as being the location of the scrapes.  [Note: The boat was lifted in the stern area, with the bow in contact with the ramp]

 

Figure 1 -  Side view of FF's boat. 

The scrapes were located on the hull. Just above the "F" in the trade name of the boat-trailer.  Arrow shows the approximate location.

 


  Figure 2 – location in bow area in which the scrapes were discovered.

 

 

 Substance on underside of boat:

 

FF collected some of the substance, scraping it into a Ziplock bag.  As he scraped the substance off, it had a flakey appearance, but once disengaged from the bottom of the boat, it essentially vanished - apparently into the bag.  [Note: In the bag, I observed aluminum filings, some paint flecks, and some grains of the substance.]

 

In oblique light, FF indicates that you can see some material accompanying the aluminum flecks.  I was able to discern something there, but did not want to disturb the potential sample, and thus did not open the Ziplock bag to investigate further.  This should be done by the analyst only.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

Substance on gunwale:

This photo is of the first sample of red substance that was taken from the side of the rail on the right (starboard) side of the boat near the front (FF Writes: “I think it [might be] paint from a dock”).

 

 

 

Additional Red Substance:

The following photograph is of, in FF’s description: “more red substance, but it is different. It was actually sitting above the rail. It was taken from the top of the rail on the left (port) side of the boat toward the rear.”

 

 

 

Dark Substance:
This photograph is described by FF as “the dark substance I mentioned near the rear of the boat on the right, just under the rail. Its shape and position make it possible to be from the hands of the grays, who were pushing the boat out of the craft.”

 

 

 

Physical Evidence Comments:

It should be noted that the samples were taken in the weeks following the regression, which was in April of 2002.  The actual events occurred in the fall of 1999, allowing for over two years in which other potential influences could have occurred.

 

Samples of this material were sent to Dr. W. C. Levengood, via Marilyn Rubin.  There turned out to be insufficient material to conduct an analysis, so the results are inconclusive.

 

 

 

Additional Witnesses: 

None are known to this incident.  However, This is a well traveled area, and an excellent opportunity exists for followup investigation by local researchers, to determine if any other witnesses or experiencers exist.

 

 

Weather Conditions:

Exact conditions are unknown.

FF describes the sky as clear and the temperature as moderate.

Wind, dew point and visibility are unknown.

 


Natural and Artificial Phenomena Check:

Given the descriptions of the case, I can not think of any natural phenomenon which would explain the simultaneous missing time, and the anomalous GPS trace.  The investigation of this case is continuing.

 

 

Other Possibilities:

The following remain to be investigated:

*    Analysis of the GPS traces for that event by an expert in this technology.

*    Analysis of physical traces from the boat, which may be associated with this event, to determine their composition, and where possible, the degree of anomalousness.

*    Checks among the local residents, and recreational visitors, to learn of any additional witnesses or experiencers, or any additional phenomena possibly occurring at this location.

 

Note on GPS Trails:

The GPS device which created the trails is an Eagle Explorer, manufactured by Eagle Electronics, Inc.  The instruction manual is dated 1997, which I assume is the date of manufacture of this model.  The witness indicates that the time interval between points on the map is 5 seconds. 

The GPS Trails associated with this encounter are also contained in a Microsoft Excel file.  This file may be made available to researchers upon request.

 

 

 

Bio:   Craig R. Lang is a field investigator with Mutual UFO Network, and is a certified clinical hypnotherapist with the National Guild of Hypnotists.  He lives in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, and conducts UFO and close encounter research in the Twin Cities metro area of Minneapolis and Saint Paul and in surrounding areas within Minnesota and Wisconsin.  He can be reached by e-mail at craig@craigrlang.com.  The Minnesota MUFON website can be reached at www.mnmufon.org.

 

 

 

 

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