FRAME MATERIAL -------------- The choices in frame materials are: steel, aluminum, titanium and carbon. Ti and Carbon are the most expensive and there is great debate about the virtues of different frame materials. The questions here are: weight, stiffness (responsiveness) and the mystical or mythical ability for a frame to absorb vibration or road shock. I would gladly pay more for a steel or AL frame that met my other design needs than a carbon frame that didn't meet them. For me, these other design needs far, far, far outweigh the question of carbon fiber and road shock. Now, I can't go so far as to say that carbon definitely does nothing for road shock. I can't back that statement up. But, in terms of frame material, what I can say is this: a) I can't tell the difference in road shock between other frame materials that are supposed to be wildly different in terms of road shock. My AL frame is *supposed* to be harsh compared the long list of steel bikes that I've owned. With similar bar set ups, saddles and tires, I honestly can't tell the difference. Again, not saying others won't or can't. Just that I can't. b) I CAN tell a very big difference with different bar pads, saddles and tires. Anybody remember the good ol days with Bennotto tape over unpadded barzzzzzzzz! IMO, worrying about frame material with respect to road shock is like cutting the handle off of a tooth brush to save pack weight while carrying a 7 lb tent or like worrying about a skis ability to hold an edge on ice while skiing in low cut leather boots. If you want comfort, ride 25c tires at 90 psi, put gel under your bar tape and consider a Brooks saddle. c) In terms of first principles, everything I've read points to utter confusion on the question of whether or not carbon should reduce road shock. One common argument seen on rec.bicycles.tech is that any vibration range that carbon tubes do dampen out are outside of the range of human perceptibility -- sort of a silent dog whistle argument. If anybody can point me to good study linking road shock reduction and carbon fiber in frames, I would love to see it. d) In terms of history, there is good reason to be suspect about our own perceptions. In an infamous review way back (Bicycling, I think) they performed a true blind comparison between bikes. I think they painted all the (steel) frames. Editors who waxed poetic on the harsh or comfy rides of various frames beforehand were unable to find differences in the blind test or worse, picked "harsh" frames and comfy and vice versa. Again, I'm not saying that folks can't tell the difference by adding carbon frame or forks. Just pointing out that this typically doesn't happen blindly. And if history is our guide when things are truly judged blind, the perceived differences might have everything to do with our expectations and nothing to do with the materials.