Minutes from Building Committee Meeting
- August 16, 2003
Attendees:
Dave Cain, Roy Koch, Tom Mowrer, Jim Nelson, Carole Sarber, and Bob Tierney
Note: This was a special meeting to begin the process of defining the layout
of the FRC. The meeting started at 9 AM.
Prayer
The meeting started with
prayer for various needs of the church congregation and for the work of the
Building Committee.
Format of this meeting
This meeting took place in
the Board Room. The scale model of the church with the original version of the
FRC was carefully disassembled and discussed. Also, the committee spent considerable
time outside viewing the area where the FRC may be built. This time was well
spent as many new ideas and constraints were defined. Also, a list of programs
was developed and discussed.
Programs
The first step in defining
the layout of the FRC is to determine the programs that the FRC will need to
support. The committee made a list of the ideas resulting from the visits to
the Mars Alliance Church and First Free Evangelical Church in McKeesport, the
congregation survey, and the creative planning session. The list includes:
Program
Source
Youth Basketball
Mars, FF, Survey,
CPS
Youth Volleyball
Mars, FF, Survey
AWANA
Mars
Fellowship before
Sunday Services
FF
Youth canteen or
coffee house
Mars, Survey, CPS
Large Dinners
Mars, FF, Survey,
CPS
Drama presentations
Survey
Young (18-25) Adult
Ministry
Survey, CPS
Exercise for Older
Adults
Survey, CPS
Classes in Secular
Topics
Survey, CPS
Adult Day Care
Survey, CPS
Home Schooler Support
Survey
After-school programs
CPS
Music Presentations
CPS
Youth worship
CPS
Many of these programs
could be started with our current facility. Those that could potentially "drive"
the FRC layout include: youth basketball, youth volleyball, youth canteen
or coffee house, large dinners, drama presentations, and music presentations.
After further discussion the committee decided that the layout must
include a gym, kitchen, youth area, and spectator area. A stage was a want
but not a must.
Review of Existing Model
The existing model was
disassembled and carefully examined. The following conclusions were reached:
The kitchen must be on
the same floor and near the gym.
Lots of storage space
will be required. There will be many tables and chairs to store. The model
shows inadequate storage area. One or more of the current downstairs classrooms
may need to be used for storage.
There is no room to make
a permanent stage like at Mars Alliance. Any stage will need to be portable.
The current model has
a large locker and shower area downstairs near the gym. There should be a
locker area but the large shower area is not needed.
The model shows two stories
adjacent to the gym. A third story might be possible with the upper story
being devoted to the Youth area. However, this make the roofline discontinuous
and unattractive.
5. Outside Walk-around
The committee went outside
and walked around the property examining options. The following ideas were discussed:
One of the long sides
of the gym will rest on the top of the hill beside the upper parking lot.
The hillside will go along this whole side (about 125 feet). This hillside
seems to be a "perfect" bleacher area. It may be possible to have
seating along this side of the gym. Maybe even stadium-like seats could be
used instead of bleachers. There would likely be room for hundreds of seats.
If these seats were used, then there would not be a need for a stage since
drama or music presentations could take place on the gym floor with spectators
in these seats. However, it might be very expensive to install this type of
seating.
The lower parking lot
(where the current volleyball court exists) is totally "cosmetic".
The hillside is so steep and the stairs will be so high that most people will
never agree to park there. We will need to have parking there to satisfy zoning
laws. This parking area should be made as cheaply as possible since it will
seldom be used.
The "footprint"
of the FRC might fit into the lower area where the volleyball court exists.
If the FRC was built there then a walkway would be needed between the existing
structure and the FRC. Cars would need to be able to drive under the walkway.
This would have the advantage of allowing parking to be in the current lower
parking lot and then people would walk down to the FRC. Also, since this would
be a free standing structure the need for the elevator might be eliminated.
Energy costs for this structure probably wouldnt be much higher than
for the FRC addition shown on the model. However, this free standing FRC may
not be attractive looking.
The walk-around showed
how land-locked we are and how difficult it will be to design a FRC to meet
our needs.
6. Further Discussion
After the walk-around the committee
continued discussions in the board room. The following issues were raised:
The presentation to the
Governing Board is scheduled for November 2003. We need to get input from
the Advisory Group prior to the presentation. Tom Mowrer intends to have a
meeting of the full AG to review our work. It was decided the BC should be
at that meeting. Also, it was decided that, if possible, a short meeting with
an architect should be conducted prior to the Governing Board presentation
to make sure we arent recommending an impossible or very costly layout.
We would need to get GB approval to pay the architect for this short meeting.
The following tentative plan was developed:
Meeting to prepare
layout - September 6
Meeting with AG
September 20
Meet with architect
around October 4
Finalize layout
October 20
Presentation to GB
November 11
Koch agreed to take the
initiative to get GB approval for the architect meeting.
The Sunset Valley Elementary
tour is scheduled for September 13 at 10 AM. However this conflicts with a
teacher training program. It was agreed that the time for this tour must be
changed. A time of 8:30 AM on September 13 would work. Koch will get either
the time or date changed. The committee also agreed that no other tours are
needed. We have plenty of work to do in the next two months and more tours
arent worth the time. Thus, the planned tour of Hempfield Presbyterian
Church will be cancelled.
The meeting concluded
with discussion of two recurrent issues. These issues are not part of the
charter of the Building Committee but are important enough that they should
be brought to the attention of the Governing Board. Koch agreed to make these
issues visible to the GB either by letter or by presentation at the next GB
meeting. The issues are:
Options for the FRC
are very limited because of the small parcel of land that we own. The Governing
Board should consider the option of selling our current facility and buying
a larger tract of land before a significant amount of money is committed
to the FRC. The BC is not recommending this option. The BC is just recommending
that the option be explored.
The new FRC is being
built to attract unsaved people to our church to hear the plan of salvation.
If successful, the BC is concerned that the new people attracted to our
church will not become regular attendees because of the relatively small
size of the sanctuary. Our second service on Sunday is now essentially full.
This means that additional services will be needed and major changes to
church programs (e.g. Sunday School) will be required. If such changes arent
made when the FRC is put in place then the purpose of the FRC may be thwarted.
The BC recommends that the GB discuss and decide on a new worship and Sunday
School format prior to committing significant funds to the FRC. Getting
congregation buy-in on these changes is also a good idea.
7. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at
11:15 AM. The next Building Committee meeting will take place on September 6 at
9 AM.