Steven Flom
So I'm back using the Telex supplied by the company. The mic on the Telex is very good but I find the earpieces suck. They have poor tonal range and are uncomfortable. I am in the process of building my own pair of noise cancelling headsets. For the record, I have checked and only the mic needs to be TSO'd. The impedance of the F100 radios is 600 ohms and keep that in mind when and if you bring your own in. If you have any doubts, go to the hangar and talk to one of the avionics guys and have him test them. Remember, the mic has to be TSO'd according to the FAA (something to do with the cockpit voice recorder) and if you bring in a set (mic) that is not, your technically in violation. Don't take the chance...
Jorge de Cubas
The microphone is mounted on a rigid tube that pivots at the earpiece and at the mic. The instructions with the headset suggest that the tube can be bent for mic placement, but then say that excessive adjustment can lead to breakage. I had no trouble with the tube, but I wondered about the long term durability of the tube as it is bashed around in the top of a flight bag, and dropped on the cockpit floor. A better solution would be the flex boom found on the new model 45. The mic has a tiny set screw for gain adjustment. My demo headset had the gain set too low, but I didn't have a small enough screw driver to change it.
The battery box holds two AAs. A green "operating" light on the box turns red when the batteries get low, a nice touch. Batteries needed replacement after 32 hours of operation.
A ground test in a Fokker F100 during a "productivity break" highlighted a weakness of ANR headsets not equipped with a volume control. The Fokker plays alert sounds through the headset. There is no pilot operated volume control for these sounds in the aircraft, and the model 25 has no headset mounted volume control. This had the effect of increasing the relative loudness of alert sounds compared with normal ATC communications. The same problem surfaced in 737s equipped with the "paddle switch" jack box. At the low volume levels used with ANR headsets, tiny adjustments of the paddle switch changes the radio volume from "too loud" to "off." I believe pilots flying aircraft which play alert sounds through the headset, or those equipped with "paddle switch" jack boxes may need to purchase an inline volume control in order to use an ANR headset.
Richard Nelson
David Callaway
[These numbers for battery life seemed low, so I asked Jim for clarification. (RM Nelson)]
I always use new alkalines. I don't know if the life is affected by the noise of the cockpit or not. I think Sennheiser was having trouble with the battery life of these early on. Maybe mine have some problem.
Jim Frost
In reference to battery life on the HMEC25
series, typical use is 15 to 20 hours however the greater the noise the
more ANC is needed and more current is used. For private aircraft there
is a battery eliminator available through the Sennheiser Dealer
network. This product is not made by Sennheiser but we know it works
well. For further information please contact me at
and
reference the DCDC3 Battery Eliminator.
Michael Feldbauer
I have used the HMEC-25 for two weeks now in
a 727. While it does an excellent job of what it is designed to do, it
does nothing for the upper frequencies which now seem more pronounced.
I still end up wearing earplugs at anything above 250K. I wish
Sennheiser would apply their technology to the whole spectrum. Also,
there is not enough sidetone. Mainly for the first reason, I could not
recommend someone spend the large sum of money for these until the
upper frequencies are covered as well.
A subsequent pirep from Dave:
Some additional comments on the HMEC25KA headset. I have used it for about six months now, and much of my previous comments on the headset came from flights in a 727-100. The earplugs are not needed in a 200 series, and quite a bit of difference is noted with the headset on and off. I still wish the frequency spectrum was larger.
Dave Thiel 727 FO Fedex
I am 49 years old and was a bag smasher for Allegheny around
CV-580's, a Cessna single engine flight instructor, a BE-99 commuter
pilot, and have done many walk-arounds during my airline career with
only my fingers in my ears. Even after all that abuse I am bothering to
try to save what hearing I have left and will continue to do so.
With regard to batteries-the airline I work for will supply me with AA's for my headset just for the asking.
Doug Stansbury-Airbus A320
Coming from several years in turboprops and regional jets using the
Bose X headset, I settled on the Sennheiser HMEC-25KAS for use in the
Airbus 318/319. I "test drove" the HMEC-45, but decided that the 25
would work better for me. We always turn the intercom on after the
push, and then take the headsets off above 18K. Headsets usually come
back on around TOD and stay on until we reach the gate. I figure if I'm
going to have a headset on during the busy times anyway, it might as
well be a good, quiet one. I know, I could have kept the Bose, but it
is a bit much for the Airbus.
If I had to wear a headset for the whole flight, I could not tolerate
the "clamping" of the 25. It's fine for a half hour or so, but for me,
the pressure would be too great for much longer. As an aside, the 45 is
very comfortable for longer periods (just not as quiet).
The closed ear cup of the 25 does not pose any "hearing the other guy"
issues for me, as we use intercom (I'm assuming those complaints come
from crews that leave the intercom off?). During the push, when the
intercom is not on (so the tug driver doesn't have to listen to us), I
just rotate the earcup of the 25 back (it's designed to do so).
I've found that ANR headsets very effectively reduce low frequency
noise (ie engine drone) with active attenuation-- both the 25 and the
45 do this well. But, the high frequency noise (ie wind noise) is best
blocked passively, which the 25 does, but not the 45 (the 25 reduces
noise passively due to its closed ear cup). In all, the 25 claims
around 30 db of protection (half active, half passive)- ear plugs are
in the neighborhood of 28 to 32 db.
Also, the foam windscreen on the 25 is obnoxiously large, and can
easliy be swapped (for about $6) with the windscreen that is designed
to fit the Telex 750. It doesn't look like it'll stretch over the 25's
larger mic, but it will (careful not to rip it).
I got the "S" (in HMEC-25KAS) which means "stereo," and I highly
recommend it. I like to keep company barely audible on #2, and without
the stereo version, even the lowest setting on your audio panel will
probably be too loud. So, I don't independently adjust L and R volumes
(which is the intent of the stereo version), but what I do is drive
both volumes way down, put #2 at the lowest setting on the audio panel,
and adjust ATC up to where they belong. Follow?
As for power, I got the version with the external battery pack for 2
reasons. First, our a/c won't power the headset. And secondly, having
the portable power makes the headset more versatile. To see if your a/c
wiill power it, check with your avionics guys (the Airbus requires
power to the 5th pin of the XLR plug-- if that pin's not powered,
you'll need the battery pack.)
All in all, a great value for the money. I bought mine refurbished
(directly from Sennheiser) and saved some cash, and I would suggest
doing the same.
Brad Blythe
Frontier F/O
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