Farris Ancestors
(Both known and possible)

Drop me a note: Ruby Simonson McNeill

    30 August  2001

    Thank you for the privilege of making our Farris lines available to all who may connect and encourage others to contact us if they feel they belong to this family.

     I have strong circumstantial evidence to tie my Laura Farris Talbott to  the Lucian N. (Nestor) Farris family.    We have now established  a round-robin email whereas all emails on the Farris family are sent to  those who are personally connected or believe they are connected.     This has been very beneficial and, if you believe you may be connected to  this family, please email me. Ruby Simonson McNeill

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http://www.lumarmall.com/hawkinde.htm

  The lineages of the earliest known Farris and the first two descending generations are found below, as submitted by descendants, and you can go there now if you wish - just click here.

Possible siblings of unknown parents:
1.      John W. Farris, b. 1810 Kentucky (in 1860 Washington Co., MO Census)
         Children that appear on the 1860 census:
          1.    Cowan M. Farris b. 1844 MO; m. Mollie _____.
                Cowan and Mollie ___ Farris had 4 children in Missouri
          1.   Willie Rush Farris
               2.    Lulu Elizabeth Farris b. 1868;  m. 1884 Wayne Co.,  MO to Jeremiah Samuel Callaway
               3.    Sallie Farris
               4.    Mollie Farris
          2.    Carrick G. Farris b. 1848 MO
          3.    Augustus Farris b. 1849 MO
          4.    Lucian Rush Farris b. 1851, d. 1880 MO; m. Prudence  Caroline Leeper b. 1855, d. 1935 Eugene, OR.  Prudence Caroline Leeper m/2: Hiram P. Talbott.  An interesting tidbit is that Hiram P. Talbott is the brother of my ancestor,  James Carter Talbott.  And the circle seems to close tighter.
                Children of Lucian Rush Farris and Prudence Caroline Leeper:
                1.    Charles H. Farris b. 1875 MO
                2.    William T. Farris b. ca. 1880 MO
                3.    Lucian Rush Farris b. 1878 MO, d. 1902
                Children of Hiram P. Talbott and Prudence Caroline Leeper:
               4.    Clarence Talbott
               5.    Robert Lee Talbott
          5.    Edward A. Farris b. 1854 MO
          6.    Elizabeth A. Farris b. 1854 MO
          7.    Ida B. Farris b. 1858 MO
2.      Anderson P. Farris b. 1814 KY, d. 1889 AR. (May have been the Anderson  P. in the 1840 WashingtonCo., MO Census and in Franklin Co., IL Black Hawk War 1832 with Benjamin Talbott).   Anderson P. Farris evidently moved to Ouachita Co., AR after 1840.  Anderson P. Farris m/1: ?????; m/2: 1859 AR to Sarah Frances Ferrell b. ca. 1841,  d. 1860; m/3: bef. 1868 Amanda K. ___ b. 1842, d. 1878
    (OR COULD THERE BE AN OLDER ANDERSON P. FARRIS WHO WAS THE FATHER OF THESE CHILDREN?.)
3.     Laura Farris b. 1818 IL; m. 1832 (aged 14) to Benjamin Talbott. Their first  child was b. in 1833 Coles Co., IL and they removed to Washington Co., MO by 1835
        (Benjamin was in the Black Hawk War in Franklin Co., IL in 1832 in same company as Anderson Farris)
    Children of Laura Farris and Benjamin Talbott:
       1.    James Carter Talbott b. 25 Feb 1833 Coles Co., IL; m/3: Sarah Jane Cain (I have a picture of her)
      2.    William Hazlet Talbott b. 17 Mar 1835 MO
       3.    Laura A. Talbott b. ca. 1837; m. Levi Gibson
       4.    Marie Talbott b. 1 Aug 1838
       5.    Juliet/Julia N. Talbott b. ca. 1840 MO; m. 3 Feb 1859 to John B. Ross (I have a picture of John B. Ross)
     6.    Mary Elizabeth Talbott b. 27 Aug 1842 MO; m. David V. Gibson
       7.    Hiram P. Talbott b. ca. 1844 MO (m.  Prudence  Caroline Leeper b. 1855, d. 1935 Eugene, OR, the widow of  Lucian Rush Farris b. 1851, d. 1880 MO)
       8.    Cynthia N. Talbott b. 3 Apr 1848 Washington Co., MO; d. ca. 1847; m. 19 Aug1866 to Columbus F. Missey
       9.    Albert/Albertine Talbott b. ca. 1848 MO
      10.   Sarah L. Talbott b. 6 Dec 1849, d. 26 Nov 1885; m. Allen Delcour
      11.   Kennett/Kenneth  Talbott b. ca. 1852 MO
      12.   Benjamin C. Talbott b. 1852 MO
      13.   Emma Talbott b. ca. 1854 MO
      14.   Amanda Talbott b. 16 Apr 1856 MO, d. 4/5 Aug 1917; m. ____ Jones
4.     Lucian Nestor Farris b. 1820 Franklin Co IL.   On Jan 12, 1859  while a member of the Missouri State Legislature from Reynolds County he wrote a letter to his  wife.  The following is quoted from that letter (and is the basis for my theory that Laura may be a  sister of Lucian N. Farris):
             "I recon you hav  heard of Ben Talbott escape from Potosi he left their in inst at 8 o'clock  at night he was 40 miles next morning from their making tracks for furand  land I saw a friend to day that gave me the particulars that lives in the  place the door was unlocked by some unknown hand their was no one made any search for him he had loats of friends their I hope this will be a caushion to Ben & especially to his boys I think this aught to keep them out of bad company they are all well"
Lucian  had more than a passing interest in Ben Talbott and his children to have  moved him to write to his wife about them and have concern for them.  Reynolds Co., MO is quite close to Washington Co., MO.
1850 Reynolds Co., MO Census
#172/172
Lucien N. Farris        29 IL    farmer
Nancy H.                 29 MO
William A                 9 MO
Seth C.                    7 MO
Laura                      4 MO
Nancy A.                  2 MO
Moira                      1 MO

195/195
Clinton Farris            22 IL    farmer
Polly A.                    22 MO
Mary Jane                  3 MO
Juliette                      1 MO
Jane                        19 MO
Nancy                      14 MO

1870 Reynolds Co., MO Census
#70/70
Farris, Lucian            49      IL    Farmer
         Anna              33      MO
         John              11      MO
         Minerva          10      MO
         Jane                9      MO
         Ida                 6      MO
         Molly              4      MO
         Anna              2      MO
        Lucian         5/12      MO

#71/71
Farris, William          29     MO
          Martha          31     Ireland
          Albert            9      MO
          John              5      MO

[Thanks to Larry Taylor for supplying the census records.]

Lineage of Ruby Simonson McNeill
See Child #3(above) of unknown Farris parents above.
Laura  Farris b. 12 Feb 1818 Illinois, d. 16 Apr 1879 MO; m. 26 Feb 1832 prob.  Franklin Co., MO to Benjamin Talbott b. 15 June 1811 Bourbon Co., KY, d.  16 Apr 1879 MO.
     Their children:
     1.    James Carter Talbott b. 25 Feb 1833 Coles Co., IL
    2.    William Hazlet Talbott b. 17 Mar 1835 MO
     3.    Laura A. Talbott b. ca. 1837; m. Levi Gibson
     4.    Marie Talbott b. 1 Aug 1838
     5.    Juliet/Julia N. Talbott b. ca. 1840 MO; m. 3 Feb 1859 to John B. Ross
    6.    Mary Elizabeth Talbott b. 27 Aug 1842 MO; m. David V. Gibson
     7.    Hiram P. Talbott b. ca. 1844 MO
     8.    Cynthia N. Talbott b. 3 Apr 1848 Washington Co., MO; d. ca. 1847; m. 19 Aug1866 to Columbus F. Missey
     9.    Albert/Albertine Talbott b. ca. 1848 MO
    10.   Sarah L. Talbott b. 6 Dec 1849, d. 26 Nov 1885; m. Allen Delcour
    11.   Kennett/Kenneth  Talbott b. ca. 1852 MO
    12.   Benjamin C. Talbott b. 1852 MO
    13.   Emma Talbott b. ca. 1854 MO
    14.   Amanda Talbott b. 16 Apr 1856 MO, d. 4/5 Aug 1917; m. ____ Jones

James Carter Talbott b. 25 Feb 1833 Coles Co., IL, d. 6 Apr 1922 Carterville, Jasper Co., MO; m/1: SarahElizabeth Hays; m/2: Elizabeth Helan Tummins; m/3: Sarah Jane Cain b. 20 July 1849 MO, d. 29 Sept 1884 MO (I have a picture of her), d/o James Cain and Martha "Patsy" Brim.  James Carter Talbott m/3: Olive M. Cole
Children of James Carter Talbott and Sarah Elizabeth Hays:
     1.    Benjamin  William Talbott b. 18 Feb 1855 MO, d. 16 Oct 1897; m. Martha Elizabeth Wright
     2.    Washington Valentine Talbott b. 14 Feb 1857 Potosi, Washington Co., MO, d. 9 Feb 1939 Belt, Cascade Co., MT; m. Jane Bradshaw
     3.    Sarah Ida Talbott b. 26 Feb 1859, d. 25 Sept 1863
    4.    James Thompson Talbott b. 20 Nov 1861, d. 14 Dec 1899 Como, CO
     5.    John Lee Talbott b. 25 Sept 1864 IL(?), d. 5 Dec 1915 MO; m. Mae ___
     6.    Emma Julia Talbott b. 17 Feb 1867 Fourchernault, Washington Co., MO, d. 1 Aug 1940 Pueblo, CO; m. Matt Gibson
Children of James Carter Talbott and Sarah Elizabeth Hays:
     7.    Joseph Carter Talbott b. 31 July 1869, d. 18 Aug 1869
 Children of James Carter Talbott and Sarah Jane Cain:
     8.    Hiram Thomas Talbott b. 3 Jan 1871 Jefferson Co., MO, d. 6 Jan 1939 Jasper Co., MO
     9.    Martha Laura Talbott b. 24 July 1872, MO, d. 15 Sept 1883
    10.   Maranda Jane Talbott b. 29 July 1874, d. 3 Oct 1875 Charles Gillespie
    12.   Robert Henry Talbott b. 1 Feb 1878 MO, d. 12 Sept 1879
    13.    Healen Ellen "Ella" Talbott b. 15 Dec 1879 Old Mines, Washington Co., MO, d. 27 Sept 1965 Mokelumne Hill, Calaveras Co., CA; m/1: 7 July 1897 Carterville, Jasper Co., MO to Jesse Russell Simonson
    14.   Charley Allen Talbott b. 3 Jan 1883 MO, d. 3 Jan 1886 MO

Descendant:  Ruby Simonson McNeill   RubyMc@comcast.net

Lineage of Lawrence "Larry" Taylor
See Child #4 of unknown Farris parents above:
Lucian Nestor Farris b. 1820 IL, d. 1876 MO; m/1: 15 Feb 1840 Ripley Co., MO to Nancy Hyatt b. 1820 MO, d. ca. 1854 MO; m/2: 1856 MO to Anna Carter b. 1837 MO, d. 1911 MO. {Sources: Ripley Co. Marriages Book B, p.35\} [It is this Lucian N. Farris, the Legislator from MO, who wrote his wife about the escapades of Ben Talbott and voiced his concern for Ben's children - see Child #3, Laura Farris Talbott.]
Children of Lucian N. Farris and Nancy Hyatt:
    1.    William A. Farris b. ca. 1841 MO, d. bet. 1911-1923; m. 1864 to Matilda ___.  The Matilda who married William was John J. Farris' s widow Martha(you found them in the 1860 St. Francois Co. census) I believe he was the John Farris keeping store in Lucian's letter.
    2.    Seth C. bn 1843 (last record I have found was 1st Lt. in Co C (McSpadden J.W. Cpt.) 3rd Missouri Cavalry CSA  ( Col Greene's regiment) 1862)
    3.     Nancy A. Farris b. ca. 1848 MO, d. aft. 1923; m. John Carter Rayfield.  Not only did JC Rayfield Jr marry Nancy but his brother Ben F. Rayfield married Laura K Farris. I have no idea who she was. (The mystery deepens!!)
    4.    Myra L. Farris b. 1849 MO, d. 1925 MO; m. Thomas Newton Dinkins
    5.    Amanda "Eliza" Farris b. 1851 MO, d. 1928 MO; m. Samuel G. Shy
    6.    Sarah Farris b. ca. 1854, d. ca. 1865?
Children of Lucian N. Farris and Anna Carter:
    7    John Carter Farris b. 1858 MO, d. 1923 Rector, MO; m. 1888 to Jennie Dennies
    8    Minerva Lucinda Farris b. 1860 MO, d. 1924 St. Louis, MO; m. 1878 MO to John Sanders
    9.   Francis Jane Farris b. 1861 MO, d. 1945; m. 1879 MO to James M. Pickens
   10.   Ida Lee Farris b. 1864 MO, d. 1953 Fustus, MO; m. 1882 MO to Thomas Henry Boston
   11.   Mollie Thompson Farris b. 1866 MO, d. 1941 Piedmnt, MO; m. 1885 to James Franklin O'Dell
   12.   Anna Bell Farris b. 1868 MO, d. 1938 Piedmont, MO; m. 1901 MO to Zimri Carter Smith
   13.   Lucian Franklin Farris b. 1870 MO, d. 1963 Temple City, CA; m. 1903 to Myrtle Stevenson
   14.   Anderson P. Farris b. 1873 MO, d. 1956 Grubville, MO; m. 1903 Stella McNail
   15.  Cynthia Ella Farris b. 1876 MO, d. 1960 Castro Valley, CA; m. 1903 MO to Mark Anthony Taylor

Descendant:  Lawrence "Larry" Taylor  larry@taylsntufts.com

Descendant: Shelley Buffington Hoffman  shoffman@mail.win.org

Descendant:  Shirley Jackson  djackson@primary.net

Descendant: Dinah Alquist Savoie dsavoie@eup.k12.mi.us

Descendant:  Marilu Farris Roosevelt4@aol.com

How is Clinton related to our Farris families?
Clinton Farris b. 5-4-1828 IL (1850 Reynolds Co., MO Census), d. 10-12-1855 Wayne Co., MO; m. Mary Ann "Polly" Mann b. 3-31-1829, d. 4-14-1905. Clinton's wife married Boss Piles after his death in 1855.  Their children were Johnny Lee Piles and Samantha Piles. It appears that a Lucian Farris was a cousin to Ematire Farris who married Thomas Green Webb and lived in Leeper (Wayne CO) until the 1920's.  Her daughter, Alberta Webb Leeper married George W. Leeper.
Children of Clinton Farris and Mary Ann "Polly" Mann:
1.    Ematire (or Emmatire) Farris b. 5-7-1853 Piedmont, Wayne Co., MO, d. 12-9-1940 Detroit, MI
2.    Mary Jane Farris
3.    Juliet Susan Farris
4.   Nancy Narcissa Farris
Children of Mary Ann "Polly" Mann and Boss Piles:
5.   William Arthur Piles
6.   Seth Junction Piles
7.   Tracion (maybe Anderson) Piles
8.   Lucian Clinton Piles

Ematire Farris b. 7 May 1853 Piedmont, MO, d. 9 Dec 1940 Detroit, MI; m. 29 Dec 1875 to Thomas Green Webb b. 1851, d. 1915 Leeper, MO.
Children of Ematire Farris and Thomas Green Webb: [All b. Reynolds Co., MO]
1.    Effie Dee Webb
2.    Thomas Arthur Webb
3.    Sarah Ella Webb
4.    Alberta Webb

[Some of above info supplied by Larry Taylor through a descendant of Clinton Farris, from notes in a Bible.]

[Note: Date: 28 Mar 2000  -  From:   Montgomb@libcoop.net
Thanks for the update.  There is still a problem with the family of Clinton Farris and Mary Ann Mann.  Only the four girls, Ematire, Mary Jane, Juliet, and Nancy are Clinton's children.  The others, William Arthur, Seth, Tracion (could also be Anderson), and Lucian are the children of Mary Ann and Boss Piles.  They are not Farris's.  I might have given you the wrong information initially, but I thought I had corrected it.
Sorry.......Beverly Montgomery( great, great, granddaughter of Clinton Farris]

Descendant:  Beverly Montgomery   montgomb@libcoop.net

     We know that Lucien/Lucian Farris was born in Franklin Co., IL in 1820.  Franklin County borders Hamilton County where another Farris family resided.
    Franklin County, Illinois was formed in 1818 from White, Gallatin and Johnson County.  Hamilton County was formed in 1821 from White county so the areas should all be considered for Farris research.   Gallatin county was formed in 1812 from Randolph county which is a border county for Monroe County.
    My Laura Farris was born in 1818 in Illinois.  If she was, indeed, the sister to Lucian then she was probably born in Franklin County or one of the parent counties.

    The Franklin Co., IL - Black Hawk War records show Anderson Farris and Benjamin Talbott both in same Company.   I was provided information that Anderson P. Farris purchased land in Franklin Co., IL in 1833 (which I also found on the internet) but in Franklin Co., IL Land Records Book 2 by Janice Johnson is the following:
8 Sept 1837 - Anderson P. Farriss, now of Monroe County, Illinois.

    The following was taken from the "Farris Files - Vol. 2, 1993".  The source is the National Archives File (Rev. War) #R3455 and reads, in part:State of Illinois - Franklin County:
      On the 2nd day of June 1834 personally appeared John Farris a resident of Franklin County, State of Illinois aged Seventy years ... that he enlisted in the year 1779 in Capt. George Brown's Company and served in 14th Regt of the Continental or Virginia line ..  he enlisted at Louisa Court House state of Virginia and that he there joined the Regt which was commanded by Lt. Col. Slaughter... legally dischared at Williamsburgh state of Virginia by Major Rusel and that he have a printed discharge he thinks bearing date of 1781 or 1782... that when he entered the service before mentioned he lived in the State of Virginia, Hanover County and that he returned home and that in the year 1782 volunteered under Col. Charles Dabney...  signed by mark of John Farris.
    According to the above Rev War document this would give John Farris a birthdate of approx. 1757 (if 18 age time of enlistment).   He died after 2 June 1834 probably in Franklin Co., IL.    At the birth year of ca. 1757, John Farris may better fit the role of grandfather to Lucien and/or Laura Farris rather than the role of father.

In the 1860 St. Francois Co., MO is the following:
565-568
John J. Farris ae. 24 b. IL Merchant $600-$1105
Martha Farris      21 b. Ireland
Francis Beal         24 b. PA

How does John J. Farris relate to Laura Farris Talbott, if at all?

ILLINOIS:    Franklin County - formed 1818 from White/Gallatin/Johnson
                  Johnson County - formed 1812 from Randolph County
                  Monroe County - formed 1816 St. Clair/Randolph
                  Hamilton County  - formed 1821 from White County
                  Gallatin County - formed 1812 from Randolph County
                  Randolph County - 1795 (as a territorial county - 1809 state
                  St. Clair County - 1790 (as a territorial county - 1809 unorganized)
                  White County - formed 1815 from Gallatin County
MISSOURI:   Washington County
                  Reynolds County
                  St. Francois County
VIRGINIA:   Louisa County
                  Hanover County

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